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No escape from an evil God

Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Eddi said:
What if God is only pretending to be nice...

What if he is in fact evil?

Should we be afraid of his wrath?

Should we fear him sending us down to Hell for all eternity?

Basically: Should we fear him?

Also: If God is good, should we fear him????

Should we be afraid of God?

He has absolute power over each and every sentient being

So I think it is an important question for us to try and address

But then what could we possibly do about it? He's The Supreme Being!

We're trapped in his creation

There's no way out, no way of escaping him

You literally cannot escape an omnipresent being

He is unescapable!

Again: I think that the question of his character is a very important one, if he yields power over what happens to us once we die and is supposedly in control of the universe!
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I think that we should be afraid of God and realize that there is no escape and try to make peace with God.
That is the logical thing to do. The illogical thing to do is to kick and scream and wish it were different. I gave up and realized the futility of such efforts a long time ago.
 
74x12

74x12

Well-Known Member
ben d said:
So you have agreed that God created Satan earlier. Now I have a new question, who created darkness?
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If God made darkness it was so the light could have a place to shine. So God could explore all goodness and establish every virtue as exceedingly and permanently real. He invites us to partake of his journey. To actually contribute and help in the act of creation as he makes all good things. Without darkness we could not know light. But remember the darkness itself cannot comprehend the light. Thus God wants us to reject the darkness and turn to the light. Because if we don't reject the darkness then we will also fail to comprehend the light. So we will lose out if we love darkness rather than light.

John 1:5
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

According to 1 John 1:5 God is light and in him is no darkness at all.

1 John 1:5
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
 
Ben Dhyan

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
74x12 said:
If God made darkness it was so the light could have a place to shine. So God could explore all goodness and establish every virtue as exceedingly and permanently real. He invites us to partake of his journey. To actually contribute and help in the act of creation as he makes all good things. Without darkness we could not know light. But remember the darkness itself cannot comprehend the light. Thus God wants us to reject the darkness and turn to the light. Because if we don't reject the darkness then we will also fail to comprehend the light. So we will lose out if we love darkness rather than light.

John 1:5
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

According to 1 John 1:5 God is light and in him is no darkness at all.

1 John 1:5
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
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Good, you agree with Isaiah 45:6-7 which states the God made the darkness and He also made the light. The Lord God is one! That was my only point..
 
Sand Dancer

Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
Sgt. Pepper said:
According to the Bible, God created darkness, evil, calamity, and disasters (Isaiah 45:7). If God actually exists, then he is ultimately responsible for the messed up world we live in, because he's the creator, who is omnipotent (Psalm 147:5; Job 42:2; Daniel 2:21), omniscient (Psalms 139:1-6; Isaiah 46:9-10; 1 John 3:20), and omnipresent (Psalms 139:7-10; Isaiah 40:12; Colossians 1:17). If God is, in fact, all-knowing, then he knew that Adam and Eve would both disobey him before he created them. Having infinite knowledge, he also knew that he would curse humanity with sin, punish humanity for sinning against him despite the fact that he allowed sin in the first place, and he'd sacrifice his son to remedy the curse of sin that he could have prevented before he created Adam and Eve, or he could have ended sin and rebellion against him with Adam and Eve rather than callously inflict humanity with a sinful nature.

If God exists, and he has infinite power, then he had the ultimate power to stop the Holocaust and save the lives of six million Jews and five million non-Jews. Furthermore, if God has infinite knowledge, and he is ever-present, then he had foreknowledge that the Holocaust would happen, and yet he did absolutely nothing to stop it. That's not a loving and merciful god. God had foreknowledge of every tragedy and atrocities throughout human history, and yet, he allowed all these horrific tragedies to happen, and he didn't stop any of it. Personally, I think he's cruel and sadistic. No doubt his followers will attempt to defend him, but there's no excuse.
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An evil puppet-master.
 
Ben Dhyan

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Thirza Fallen said:
No, definitely not. I was talking about the Hebrew god.
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Don't be put off by the chattering of human mind's conceptualizations about God or Nirvana, the reality which these terms represent are beyond human comprehension. Beyond the Buddhic, Christian, Hindu, Islamic, Taoist, etc., teachings, there is the same underlying truth, that of there being a universal mind.
 
Sand Dancer

Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
ben d said:
Don't be put off by the chattering of human mind's conceptualizations about God or Nirvana, the reality which these terms represent are beyond human comprehension. Beyond the Buddhic, Christian, Hindu, Islamic, Taoist, etc., teachings, there is the same underlying truth, that of there being a universal mind.
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I think there is a universal mind or something to that effect, but certain scriptures do not paint a pretty picture.
 
Ben Dhyan

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Thirza Fallen said:
I think there is a universal mind or something to that effect, but certain scriptures do not paint a pretty picture.
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The thing is, whatever the reality of the one mind is, we can never realize it indirectly through thought because we are not actually separate from IT. It is like a dog chasing its tail to think that we can find reality through the conceptualization of reality. We and everything we ever perceive are an expression of IT, so the only way to discover the real extent of who we are is to contemplate within, meditate on the within, the inside is not really separated from the outside, all is one!

I suspect that all religions began in the attempt to convey this 'all is one' idea, and human religious institutions anthropomorphized IT along the way. Be that as it may, the truth is still there for those with 'eyes to see' and who are motivated to live the disciplinary practice rather than just accept the conceptual teachings as a belief, and or intellectualize about it.
 
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