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No More Face Masks...

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Happy .. face masks cannot filter out viruses in any case.
They just stop people breathing directly in your face, the same as a shield.
In, say a closed in railway carriage, viruses will still be in circulation despite everybody wearing a mask.

I'm not saying that they do nothing to help stop the spread.
..but they don't do a lot.
That is why we had lockdowns. :)
Some masks can filter viruses, though not perfectly.

The ubiquitous blue masks you see everywhere are droplet masks. They're made to stop the inhalation of æresolized droplets. They're not rated for airborne transmission, which requires N-95 or better masking.

The droplet masks do help. The N-95 masks are much better. Neither works well if not properly fitted. Fit is everything.

Fit Test: Don a mask. Have a smoker friend blow cigarette smoke in your face -- the smoke particles being roughly the same size as the coronaviruses. Can you smell the smoke? If so: FAIL.
 

muhammad_isa

Well-Known Member
They don't need to filter viruses. They just need to filter the water droplets that contain the viruses.
I've already said that they have some effect.

However, if you think that you can carry on breathing without affecting the humidity in a small space, you believe in fantasy. :)
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
They don't need to filter viruses. They just need to filter the water droplets that contain the viruses.
That's the problem. It was originally thought that the virus was spread by droplet contamination. Now it's known that the buggers can also become airborn.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Let us distinguish between something mandatory and sonething advisable.

When something is advisable, a person can feel free to wear it or not.
 
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SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I think we all know that. o_O

A govt. making it mandatory means that it is a criminal offence to not wear a mask unless you have an exemption.

Unless it is absolutely necessary, I am not in favour of criminalising people for not wearing a surgeon's mask.
Where does it all end?
If you think face masks are over the top, try working in fields that care for the vulnerable. My mother works in disability. Right now she has to wear a fitted mask, a full surgical gown, gloves, face shield and it all has to be air tight.
My Aunty works in aged care. Not only does she have to wear all that, she has to provide a negative COVID test every three days in order to be allowed to work.
I only have to wear a mask to work and I’m okay with that, because it’s easy to get and honestly still fairly cheap. (And I can claim my mask purchases as a tax write off since I require it to work hehe)
Honestly I wore more PPE during my time working in a freaking deli. Like a mask is nothing
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
That's the problem. It was originally thought that the virus was spread by droplet contamination. Now it's known that the buggers can also become airborn.
Is that why they’re now recommending the N95 masks?
I recall reading somewhere that my government may start to disallow cloth masks and sort of makeshift masks (bandanas worn around the face) due to low levels of protection. I just assumed it was a reaction against the more transmissible Omicron
 

PureX

Veteran Member
The Omicron variant causes a very mild illness, and most of the population here is vaccinated. These are the relevant facts.
what does the CDC say. I think that's what matters. Not what we think. Are you playing expert, or do the real experts concur?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The Omicron variant causes a very mild illness, and most of the population here is vaccinated. These are the relevant facts.

In France as of 11 jan, 90% of the population had been vaccinated. (The government changed the minimum age limit for vaccination on 12th so that instantly became 81%)

At the same time hospitals were reporting 90% of their UCU beds occuupied by non vaccinated people suffering covid symptoms.

This means that 90% of genuine medical need for ICU beds is not happening.

And I have no reason to believe the situation is not similar in othere countries

So assume a friend or relative was in need of an ICU bed for a life threatening illnesses but had to die because the beds were full of covid patients.

How would you feel about those relevant facts then?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Johnson being PM still could make me happy?

I'll still wear a mask. Of course that's mostly to protect others. I'm not unduly concerned, I'll still socially distance and keep socialising and shopping to the minimum. My covidiot neighbour (whose business involves handling food and oh guess what, he just caught covid) won't be coming into my house any time soon.

There is nothing saying anyone can't continue to wear masks. I suppose some are needing the government telling them what to do.
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
I would say go maskless if its your choice, or at your peril only, but its not. Not wearing a mask risks the lives of others, like the guy who commits suicide must take others with him/her.
 
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