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Does it matters what spiritual teaching we follow

muhammad_isa

Well-Known Member
They appear to be oppressing females (and children as to education), as to their rights - which the more liberal of the world would see as inherent rights - and they appear to be getting such notions from their interpretation of the Qur'an..
Western nations have suspended most humanitarian aid to Afghanistan following the Taliban's takeover of the country in August 2021 and the World Bank and International Monetary Fund also halted payments.
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I doubt whether that will help the plight of females in Afghanistan.
It seems to me that it will only make matters worse.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Western nations have suspended most humanitarian aid to Afghanistan following the Taliban's takeover of the country in August 2021 and the World Bank and International Monetary Fund also halted payments.
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I doubt whether that will help the plight of females in Afghanistan.
It seems to me that it will only make matters worse.
It's difficult to have a reaction to the Taliban that would help the many who do need our help. As in many countries, any money we give cannot be guaranteed to go where it should rather than into the pockets of those where it shouldn't go. Still doesn't alter the facts though. The Taliban are responsible for what is happening regarding females and children - and from wherever such comes.
 

muhammad_isa

Well-Known Member
..Still doesn't alter the facts though. The Taliban are responsible for what is happening regarding females and children..
I haven't observed these "facts" of yours..
I know Afghanistan is not a rich country.
Education is expensive.

It is easy to criticise. Let's wait and see, shall we.
 

muhammad_isa

Well-Known Member
In October 1994, Mohammed Omar, a mujahideen member who taught at a Pakistani madrassa, returned to Kandahar and formed the largely Pashtun Taliban movement. His followers were religious students known as the Talib and they sought to end warlordism through stricter adherence to religious Sharia law. The anarchy of the country, especially the frequent rape, robbery, and murder, outraged the Taliban. By November 1994, the Taliban had captured all of Kandahar Province. They declined the government's offer to join in a coalition government and marched on Kabul in 1995.
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@Conscious thoughts
..so this is when the Taliban first formed. It was a result of the constant conflict between the major powers of Capitalism and Communism, that left Afghanistan in a state of anarchy.
 

Daniel Nicholson

Blasphemous Pryme
Also, everyone benefits from the light of Ahlulbayt (a). To take what you like from the light and equate it with darkness, and hate those who are the very light itself, how can that be accepted by God? How can that be met with anything but his wrath especially after clear proofs has come?
Most monotheistic religions preach this intolerance. To live and let live like the OP suggests is heresy. I don't think there is anyway around this, short of emancipating yourself from theism.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Most monotheistic religions preach this intolerance. To live and let live like the OP suggests is heresy. I don't think there is anyway around this, short of emancipating yourself from theism.
If others see truth different than I do why would that be wrong? The teaching i practice isn't about telling others they are wrong.
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
To live and let live like the OP suggests is heresy.

If people want to sabotage their souls they are welcome to. If they want to chase petty desires, they can. However, we have the right to call to the light and warn about consequences.

We aren't putting anyone in hell, just warning about it. If people are sure there is no hell, it should not make them feel uncomfortable.

The discomfort comes from doubt. If one is sure their way is good and God won't harshly punish it, we won't bother them at all.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I haven't observed these "facts" of yours..
I know Afghanistan is not a rich country.
Education is expensive.

It is easy to criticise. Let's wait and see, shall we.
Easy to criticise? Well it isn't for some when their religion is involved perhaps. The Taliban would have no doubt ensured the continuation of financial support if they had just let females carry on with the work they had been doing for a decade or so and letting older children to get on with their education. But they didn't, and instead gave every indication as to not doing so. Therefore - their fault! :oops:
 

Daniel Nicholson

Blasphemous Pryme
... for if you continue down each religion they will invariably contradict each other. All cannot be true!
Indeed, and moreover, only one can be completely true! Out of the 10,000 religions that there have been in human history, how likely is yours to be the one? Of course, a far more likely alternative is that they are all false.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Indeed, and moreover, only one can be completely true! Out of the 10,000 religions that there have been in human history, how likely is yours to be the one? Of course, a far more likely alternative is that they are all false.
Just my take on this. The only 'true' religion is one's personal religion. The way in which each of us comprehends the objective universe through each of our subjective universes. This means every one of us has our own religion, instead of one religion having all of us.
 

Daniel Nicholson

Blasphemous Pryme
If people want to sabotage their souls they are welcome to. If they want to chase petty desires, they can. However, we have the right to call to the light and warn about consequences.

We aren't putting anyone in hell, just warning about it. If people are sure there is no hell, it should not make them feel uncomfortable.

The discomfort comes from doubt. If one is sure their way is good and God won't harshly punish it, we won't bother them at all.

Your associates have a tendency to kill, torture, rape, and maim non-believers who do not see the light. That's what I have a problem with.
 

Link

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Your associates have a tendency to kill, torture, rape, and maim non-believers who do not see the light. That's what I have a problem with.

Maybe stop your governments from funding people with such ideas over more tolerant and reasonable Muslims, and we won't have this problem.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Indeed, and moreover, only one can be completely true! Out of the 10,000 religions that there have been in human history, how likely is yours to be the one? Of course, a far more likely alternative is that they are all false.
Why may I ask, do you conclude that they are all likely false?
There was always true religion, from the time God chose Israel, through to the Messiah choosing men to carry on true worship, up till his appointing the Christian congregation, and continuing to see over them... till the end. Matthew 24:14; Matthew 28:18-20: Acts 1:6-8; Acts 2 ...
So if you believe they are all false, what do you believe happened to Jesus? You don't believe he abandoned his father's belongings, do you?

Where can one read that Jesus is no longer guiding his people, and overseeing the work he started, and which has to be completed? Revelation 12:17
There has always been one truth. Nowhere does the the scriptures say that has changed... or ever will.
(Ephesians 4:4-6) 4One body there is, and one spirit, just as you were called to the one hope of your calling; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Honestly, does it matter what religious beliefs or spiritual teaching we follow?
Isn't the "goal" the same or very similar? So should we care if someone is a buddhist, Hindu, Christian, muslim or any other religious believer?
Maybe it is more important to spiritually just look at our own being?

Should it matter if someone does not believe or even refuse to hold any belief in spiritual teaching?
Not all religions are equally good. Are you saying that it is okay to tear out still beating hearts of prisoners of war to sacrifice to the sun?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Honestly, does it matter what religious beliefs or spiritual teaching we follow?
Isn't the "goal" the same or very similar? So should we care if someone is a buddhist, Hindu, Christian, muslim or any other religious believer?
Maybe it is more important to spiritually just look at our own being?

Should it matter if someone does not believe or even refuse to hold any belief in spiritual teaching?
all beliefs systems fall into one of two categories based on how the adherent is manifesting them. it is either service to self, or service to all as self. doesn't matter what the adherent is wearing. it matters what the adherent is doing. not everyone follows the golden rule, or law of reciprocity
 

Daniel Nicholson

Blasphemous Pryme
Why may I ask, do you conclude that they are all likely false?
There was always true religion, from the time God chose Israel, through to the Messiah choosing men to carry on true worship, up till his appointing the Christian congregation, and continuing to see over them... till the end. Matthew 24:14; Matthew 28:18-20: Acts 1:6-8; Acts 2 ...
So if you believe they are all false, what do you believe happened to Jesus? You don't believe he abandoned his father's belongings, do you?

Where can one read that Jesus is no longer guiding his people, and overseeing the work he started, and which has to be completed? Revelation 12:17
There has always been one truth. Nowhere does the the scriptures say that has changed... or ever will.
(Ephesians 4:4-6) 4One body there is, and one spirit, just as you were called to the one hope of your calling; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
According to your own faith, 99.99% of all-time religions are wrong. I'm just saying, that is pretty close to 100%.
I think the story of Jesus is derivative fiction written decades after the alleged events took place, so quoting the bible in defense of the bible to me is just using lies to defend lies.
You have to look at other resources, not just scriptures, to see that things are changing.
 
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