Do you ask questions about the spiritual teaching you believe in?

Do you question the teaching, or how and why the spiritual figures said what they did.
Or do you take everything the book says to be 100% literarly and can not be question at all?

If you don't ask questions, how do you realize the truth in the teaching by your self?

Conscious thoughts said:

Do you question the teaching, or how and why the spiritual figures said what they did.
Or do you take everything the book says to be 100% literarly and can not be question at all?

If you don't ask questions, how do you realize the truth in the teaching by your self?

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This to me is a tricky subject because different perspectives are involved for me.

Certainly not 100% literally. And I occasionally ask a question to further my understanding. But I'm also mindful of something I found in the Quran that made a real impression on me. It's the story of Moses and Khizr.

That teaching story for me operates on multiple levels. One is self-control. Another is patience. A third is that those who have attained have passed beyond the realm of the intellect and work according to patterns that I can't know.

A fourth concerns trust. If I don't trust a teacher, then that person is not my true teacher although I might learn something.

sun rise said:

This to me is a tricky subject because different perspectives are involved for me.

Certainly not 100% literally. And I occasionally ask a question to further my understanding. But I'm also mindful of something I found in the Quran that made a real impression on me. It's the story of Moses and Khizr.

That teaching story for me operates on multiple levels. One is self-control. Another is patience. A third is that those who have attained have passed beyond the realm of the intellect and work according to patterns that I can't know.

A fourth concerns trust. If I don't trust a teacher, then that person is not my true teacher although I might learn something.

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I agree with you
But questioning my teais not to fail him it is to know that he understand what he teaching me. Then when he teaching me, I am the one who must take that teaching to my next level of understanding

Conscious thoughts said:

Do you question the teaching, or how and why the spiritual figures said what they did.
Or do you take everything the book says to be 100% literarly and can not be question at all?

If you don't ask questions, how do you realize the truth in the teaching by your self?

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I do question some teachings such as whether God is all-loving.
I also question a teaching about animals not having an afterlife.
There are some others....

But even though I question them I realize I could be wrong and I am no doubt wrong if I question anything that Baha'u'llah wrote, so I have to try to understand what He meant by what He said, realizing that maybe it does not mean what I think it means.

Conscious thoughts said:

Do you question the teaching, or how and why the spiritual figures said what they did.
Or do you take everything the book says to be 100% literarly and can not be question at all?

If you don't ask questions, how do you realize the truth in the teaching by your self?

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I always question my teachers... And then I end up leaving because I dig too deep and find that the teachers are hiding something from me.

You cannot realise the truth by not asking questions, as you won't even be able to gain any understanding. You might as well be a robot just accepting the input of your master. Not spiritual at all.

Israel Khan said:

I always question my teachers... And then I end up leaving because I dig too deep and find that the teachers are hiding something from me.

You cannot realise the truth by not asking questions, as you won't even be able to gain any understanding. You might as well be a robot just accepting the input of your master. Not spiritual at all.

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So true

That's just it, there's a realm beyond what's physically apparent. How can I know this realm without questioning it. First and foremost I have to open myself to its possibility. For if I never open myself to it, I'll never learn the questions to ask.

If I were not made for understanding I would not have the ability to understand. And to understand I must question. And that reveals that there is a logic to the ways of spirituality. If I don't regard spirituality than everything will seem meaningless in and of itself.

If meaning were unimportant than why am I a creature with the ability to make, and recognize meaning?

So I learn of innocence, and I learn of guilt. I learn of moral facts. And the power to question my own motives, and see the fruits of another's and my own.

Whatever is out there don't accept blind obedience. I can follow out of fear, or out of love and illumination.

I always come to the door of questions. And I welcome that.

Right now I wonder why not everything is a paved road, and I always must struggle to survive? And there are no givens? No guarantees?

Is this road of life just an illusion? Am I better off without a safety net? When so many never get a chance to live, shall I consider life a gift?
And if all my life is just episodes of tragedy, and suffering, and heartbreak, Do these things teach me anything getting me closer to a goal?

The human creation is a powerful one, and life and death are ever before us. This life cannot be the end all be all of the spiritual road. There's too much substance for everything to vaporize and disappear.

Do I mistake the goal as more important than the journey? All we have all our lives is the here and now. And yet perhaps the goal is sublime?

All I know is that I didn't necessarily have to exist.

If I can answer these questions then my spiritual journey continues.

Interestingly enough to me I see a divine purpose that is sublime. But I also see where I'm no better off than the mice chasing after it's next meal, and cover.

Do we have to lose everything to gain everything?

Questions are crucial, vital, and why should I think myself more important than another? The material standard, the intellectual standard, are not enough. There is a spiritual standard. That's what I pursue. Gotta question!

osgart said:

That's just it, there's a realm beyond what's physically apparent. How can I know this realm without questioning it. First and foremost I have to open myself to its possibility. For if I never open myself to it, I'll never learn the questions to ask.

If I were not made for understanding I would not have the ability to understand. And to understand I must question. And that reveals that there is a logic to the ways of spirituality. If I don't regard spirituality than everything will seem meaningless in and of itself.

If meaning were unimportant than why am I a creature with the ability to make, and recognize meaning?

So I learn of innocence, and I learn of guilt. I learn of moral facts. And the power to question my own motives, and see the fruits of another's and my own.

Whatever is out there don't accept blind obedience. I can follow out of fear, or out of love and illumination.

I always come to the door of questions. And I welcome that.

Right now I wonder why not everything is a paved road, and I always must struggle to survive? And there are no givens? No guarantees?

Is this road of life just an illusion? Am I better off without a safety net? When so many never get a chance to live, shall I consider life a gift?
And if all my life is just episodes of tragedy, and suffering, and heartbreak, Do these things teach me anything getting me closer to a goal?

The human creation is a powerful one, and life and death are ever before us. This life cannot be the end all be all of the spiritual road. There's too much substance for everything to vaporize and disappear.

Do I mistake the goal as more important than the journey? All we have all our lives is the here and now. And yet perhaps the goal is sublime?

All I know is that I didn't necessarily have to exist.

If I can answer these questions then my spiritual journey continues.

Interestingly enough to me I see a divine purpose that is sublime. But I also see where I'm no better off than the mice chasing after it's next meal, and cover.

Do we have to lose everything to gain everything?

Questions are crucial, vital, and why should I think myself more important than another? The material standard, the intellectual standard, are not enough. There is a spiritual standard. That's what I pursue. Gotta question!

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Yes, we have to leave it all, to see all

Conscious thoughts said:

Do you question the teaching, or how and why the spiritual figures said what they did.
Or do you take everything the book says to be 100% literarly and can not be question at all?

If you don't ask questions, how do you realize the truth in the teaching by your self?

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Short answer. The teaching I use, is Western secular, but it can be done as spiritual and with God.
So here it is. I was taught to not just follow an order as a soldier, but think along, and point out if it can be done differently depending on context and what is at play.
I use the same approach for teachings about how to be a human. I look for the general conditions and then I adapt it to me as an individual human/context.

I can trust in it, act on it, and thereby see that it works or doesn't work for myself. I don't need to "believe in" anything. Just trust and try.

Conscious thoughts said:

Do you question the teaching, or how and why the spiritual figures said what they did.
Or do you take everything the book says to be 100% literarly and can not be question at all?

If you don't ask questions, how do you realize the truth in the teaching by your self?

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If I did the latter, I'd still be Catholic.

Question everything.

Conscious thoughts said:

If you don't ask questions, how do you realize the truth in the teaching by your self?

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Question is always a positive, however, when it concerns faith, or spirituality, one has to be prepared to expect and accept, 'I do not know' for the answer.

Conscious thoughts said:

Do you question the teaching, or how and why the spiritual figures said what they did.
Or do you take everything the book says to be 100% literarly and can not be question at all?

If you don't ask questions, how do you realize the truth in the teaching by your self?

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I tend to get questions that come to mind. I have asked a bunch of questions in my mind and in prayer and to others.

Psalm23 said:

I tend to get questions that come to mind. I have asked a bunch of questions in my mind and in prayer and to others.

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Keep asking that is how wisdom rise within us.

Conscious thoughts said:

Do you question the teaching, or how and why the spiritual figures said what they did.
Or do you take everything the book says to be 100% literarly and can not be question at all?

If you don't ask questions, how do you realize the truth in the teaching by your self?

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I realize the best possible path for me to live for a near eternity in a virtual paradise world is
1, Brain-computer interfaces 2. Replacement of neurons with synthetic circuitry 3. Built simulated worlds 4. Permanent residency in the Matrix.

4 Steps to Immortality: From Neuralink to Nirvana | Answers With Joe

Conscious thoughts said:

Do you question the teaching, or how and why the spiritual figures said what they did.
Or do you take everything the book says to be 100% literarly and can not be question at all?

If you don't ask questions, how do you realize the truth in the teaching by your self?

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I absolutely ask questions. Mostly, though, I don't ask men. I ask God. And when I realize that my heart and mind are completely at peace with the conclusion I've come to, I know that He's answered me.

Suave said:

I realize the best possible path for me to live for a near eternity in a virtual paradise world is
1, Brain-computer interfaces 2. Replacement of neurons with synthetic circuitry 3. Built simulated worlds 4. Permanent residency in the Matrix.

4 Steps to Immortality: From Neuralink to Nirvana | Answers With Joe

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I have no understanding of those things

Conscious thoughts said:

I have no understanding of those things

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Uploading Memories: Elon Musk's Brain Chip (Neuralink Future Technology)

Suave said:

Uploading Memories: Elon Musk's Brain Chip (Neuralink Future Technology)

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You want a chip in your brain?

Conscious thoughts said:

You want a chip in your brain?

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Yes, in order to improve my spirituality by way of improving my memories, sharing of knowledge, and speeding my computational resources.