Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Clara Tea, whatever Jesus may have said on the mount, we constantly judge and are judged all the time.
Our life depends on our correctly or wrongly judging others.
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Judging others by our own faith or religious beliefs, is it wrong?
- Thread starter Spirit of Light
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Our life depends on our correctly or wrongly judging others.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
That is not so just for love. Any human behavior declared universal runs into that problem.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Of course it's wrong. Whenever we take it upon ourselves to try to do God's job, it's wrong. The only people we ought to be judging are ourselves. That should keep all of us plenty busy.This question has been troubeling me for some time now.
How can I, or should I judge other people based on my own belief? Honestly i think its wrong to do so...
Judgment in it self is a bit iffy to me. But if I was to judge if a person truly are good, would it not be based on their faith/religious beliefs and not mine?
And what if it is someone without a religious belief,?
Isn't it the basis for "Judgment" a persons action, words and thoughts that matter, and not their religious beliefs
Pudding
Well-Known Member
Definition of judge:
[verb] form an opinion or conclusion about.
Definition of judgement:
an opinion or conclusion.
If our own faith or a specific of our religious beliefs or non-religious beliefs (which we use as a reason to judge people) is not properly supported by good evidence, then it's wrong to used them to judge others, because they're not a reliable tool to tell us what is correct and what is not correct in reality life. Vice versa.
So if you hear someone says they believe their god order them to practice evil behaviours and they obey their god, or if someone says they believe it's good for them to practice evil behaviours base on their specific non-religious beliefs, you would have to be careful with them. You can anonymously ask police to investigate them. If they really engage in something which break good laws, good police will arrest them. If their words are lies, you would know they're liar.
People can have beliefs, be it religious beliefs or non-religious beliefs, which they use it to judge (form an opinion or conclusion about) things. I.e. they believe a specific behaviour is virtuous/immoral/evil, they believe a specific statement is fact/fiction, they believe a specific person is innocent/murderer, they believe/disbelieve a specific god is virtuous/evil/real/fiction, they strongly believe a specific food is delicious/unsavoury, they strongly believe a specific smell is fragrance/stink, they strongly believe a specific liquid is antidote/poison, they strongly believe a specific tv show is excellent/meh, they believe a specific person is real/unreal believer, they believe/disbelieve we'll be damned if we don't join a specific religion sect and pay the weekly/monthly/yearly membership fees, they believe/disbelieve a specific person is the most updated messenger sent by a specific god, they believe/disbelieve we'll be damned if we don't obey whatever a specific person says god says everyone should obey, they believe/disbelieve a specific religion sect's non-members are swine/donkey/whatever, they believe/disbelieve spiritual realm or whatever else similar realm is real/fiction, they believe/disbelieve life is meaningless and have no real value if a specific god or whatever else similar being doesn't exist, they believe/disbelieve flat Earth is fact/fiction, they believe evolution is fact/fiction, they believe...etc.
It's fine to judge people, when the judgement is honest and properly supported by good evidence.
It's NOT fine to judge people, when the judgement becomes a tool to masturbate one's ego, to make oneself happy because of feeling superior in some manners. I.e. "I'm so smart, so beautiful/handsome, so rich, or so spiritually enlighten. Other people are so silly, so NOT beautiful/handsome, so poor, or so spiritually unenlightened. HAHAHAHAHAHHHAHA, i'm so proud of myself, i'm the best, yeah, yessssssssss." That's arrogant.
***In a conversation or making public statement about some matters that are important/extraordinary and/or about some matters that other people rightfully cares about...
It's fine to express the judgement, if the judgement is properly supported by good OBJECTIVE evidence.
It's NOT fine to express the judgement, if the judgement is NOT properly supported by good OBJECTIVE evidence.
It's NOT fine to express the judgement, if one REFUSE to backup the judgement with good OBJECTIVE evidence.
To some extent, different people have different standards of methods to figure out whether an evidence or OBJECTIVE evidence is good or not.
To some extent, different people have different opinion about whether an evidence or OBJECTIVE evidence is good or not.
[verb] form an opinion or conclusion about.
Definition of judgement:
an opinion or conclusion.
Depends.Conscious thoughts said:
If our own faith or a specific of our religious beliefs or non-religious beliefs (which we use as a reason to judge people) is not properly supported by good evidence, then it's wrong to used them to judge others, because they're not a reliable tool to tell us what is correct and what is not correct in reality life. Vice versa.
If a specific of your own belief is not properly supported by good evidence, then it's wrong that if you judge other people based on that specific of your own belief. Vice versa.
Faith or religious beliefs or non-religious beliefs can affect how one acts, how one speaks, how one thoughts.Judgment in it self is a bit iffy to me. But if I was to judge if a person truly are good, would it not be based on their faith/religious beliefs and not mine?
And what if it is someone without a religious belief,?
Isn't it the basis for "Judgment" a persons action, words and thoughts that matter, and not their religious beliefs
So if you hear someone says they believe their god order them to practice evil behaviours and they obey their god, or if someone says they believe it's good for them to practice evil behaviours base on their specific non-religious beliefs, you would have to be careful with them. You can anonymously ask police to investigate them. If they really engage in something which break good laws, good police will arrest them. If their words are lies, you would know they're liar.
People can have beliefs, be it religious beliefs or non-religious beliefs, which they use it to judge (form an opinion or conclusion about) things. I.e. they believe a specific behaviour is virtuous/immoral/evil, they believe a specific statement is fact/fiction, they believe a specific person is innocent/murderer, they believe/disbelieve a specific god is virtuous/evil/real/fiction, they strongly believe a specific food is delicious/unsavoury, they strongly believe a specific smell is fragrance/stink, they strongly believe a specific liquid is antidote/poison, they strongly believe a specific tv show is excellent/meh, they believe a specific person is real/unreal believer, they believe/disbelieve we'll be damned if we don't join a specific religion sect and pay the weekly/monthly/yearly membership fees, they believe/disbelieve a specific person is the most updated messenger sent by a specific god, they believe/disbelieve we'll be damned if we don't obey whatever a specific person says god says everyone should obey, they believe/disbelieve a specific religion sect's non-members are swine/donkey/whatever, they believe/disbelieve spiritual realm or whatever else similar realm is real/fiction, they believe/disbelieve life is meaningless and have no real value if a specific god or whatever else similar being doesn't exist, they believe/disbelieve flat Earth is fact/fiction, they believe evolution is fact/fiction, they believe...etc.
It's fine to judge people, when the judgement is honest and properly supported by good evidence.
It's NOT fine to judge people, when the judgement becomes a tool to masturbate one's ego, to make oneself happy because of feeling superior in some manners. I.e. "I'm so smart, so beautiful/handsome, so rich, or so spiritually enlighten. Other people are so silly, so NOT beautiful/handsome, so poor, or so spiritually unenlightened. HAHAHAHAHAHHHAHA, i'm so proud of myself, i'm the best, yeah, yessssssssss." That's arrogant.
***In a conversation or making public statement about some matters that are important/extraordinary and/or about some matters that other people rightfully cares about...
It's fine to express the judgement, if the judgement is properly supported by good OBJECTIVE evidence.
It's NOT fine to express the judgement, if the judgement is NOT properly supported by good OBJECTIVE evidence.
It's NOT fine to express the judgement, if one REFUSE to backup the judgement with good OBJECTIVE evidence.
To some extent, different people have different standards of methods to figure out whether an evidence or OBJECTIVE evidence is good or not.
To some extent, different people have different opinion about whether an evidence or OBJECTIVE evidence is good or not.
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Sirona
Hindu Wannabe
Isn't it the basis for "Judgment" a persons action, words and thoughts that matter, and not their religious beliefs
Yes, ideally people should be judged by their acts, not by the religious label they subscribe to. The problem is that on this forum, we have no access to these acts. We can only make judgments upon the content written in these forums. The problem is If I had to make a judgment based upon what has been written on this forum, I’d possibly say I see some authors continuously claiming to have some superior religious authority over others due to some nebulous higher insight or deeper practice which obviously cannot be objectively verified. Some authors might resort to the special trick of being “humble” and only “speaking for themselves” when challenged, and stating that “people shouldn’t judge at all” when possibly confronted with conclusions that somehow may not suit them. Given the things some authors have advocated on this forum, I’d wonder whether certain authors might possibly have a taste for mindless surrender. If I advocate mindless surrender as a good thing, I communicate that others should follow my example, regardless of whether I tell myself to “only speak for myself”. If I actually wanted to keep my religion private, I’d pull the plug of the computer and become a hermit instead of promoting my faith to others on a forum where thousands of people can possibly read it.
When people put their opinion online, they put them up for negotiation, whether they like it or not.
We all play roles we may not be aware of, but in the unlikely case someone possibly liked to see themselves in the role of a saint, the stake indeed is put quite high.