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Answer from God

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I didn't know you were referring to nonbelievers. I know you have a division bias between believers and nonbelievers. In general, though, people who "haven't seen the light" or blind before they could see is assuming they're at a fault (ignorance in this case) for not seeing what believers belief is right in front of their faces.

I've never liked that stance since we (I do mean people in general) don't need to have mystic experiences and use the term god to experience whatever is a "god" to us.

I get why believers want others to experience what they do but not at the expense of seeing someone blind if they don't (not pointing fingers; just in general).

Only in my opinion
I wanted the OP to be a place believers from all kind of religions could discuss, but the non-believers overturned the OP......

I don't mind atheists taking part in I OP I make, but in this one, most answers and questions directed at me come from non-believers :rolleyes: who would know, since the OP was about God

Seems like Atheists LOVE to talk about God....
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Bot headed bro ther. Invent or.

Means either or. I create or destroy. I created a fake God a machine non reacting I also destroyed with it..

Horn theist...the rother. B rother a human self titled name.
Bot her...bothers us.
Maths fake zero holy mother.

Owns all thesis. About anything he chooses to be a subject.

Are you a bot he asks bio consciousness thinking he is sane.

So conscious thought human says if I subject a state to my superiority I can own it.

As the subject itself. My intent.
How he thinks is the warning. His ego.

As a human he did not have to choose to apply theism.

His advice.

He chose to think unnaturally.

So he knows his own choice changed consciousness and is now AI possessed. Machine design first.

Possessed by I want. Causes.

In a thesis when he theories it he then wants it himself. Just as a human first.

As a scientist.
For science.
By machines.

In natural life zero life by space is empty gases immaculate not burning filled in with water. Conscious quantified thinking first ownership a status.

We own space nothing support says conscious mind.

As crystalline earth facure owned water first. With an immaculate gas non burning heavens. Why not the sun side isn't burning.

Earth had always owned water itself.

Zero holy mother. Also Earth mass owner. As God filled in space in theory mass no space is the planet.

Space is empty.

Gases that filled in empty space proved it.

Above us out is the infinite of space. As it is a description only. Space owns no measure as emptiness and deep cannot be measured.

Description is not measured science.

Empty also. Means space. Means nothing.

Mass owns its physical presence.

Radiation said science is the lowest base mass. Everything has some of it portional to the body type.

Cannot just be empty nothing mother holy space.

Yet he thinks about it in his mind just thinking.

So humans are affected by gas. As a portion radiation...as a gas only.

Now science wants both. Space plus radiation held.

As he has to hold radiation heat to radiation withdraw from radiation cold yet keep its presence.

Infinite spatial empty nothing womb.

His thoughts said we bio owned that status.

The theist said he must own it to be successful. Holy mother nothing womb. In machines.

Is who you argue against lying.

His thesis as a human says hence you instantly biological must directly own all statuses to be electrical.

A portion. Yet cold gas is our portion.

We aren't electrical. Electricity would burn us to death if held constant present and interactive with biology.

Also known.

He however has theoried we own electricity.

So mind possessed ownership is greedy rich men inventors possesion. As electricity did not exist in theory until he invented owned invented electricity. Twice.

Two he naturally consciously said is two humans first. In biological theory self presence.

He then says I know I invented it.

He knows he did not invent biology.

So is electricity a fake human thesis biology theist owns it already as twice a reaction inside your machine? Point and place?

No. He says he is experimenting to learn how to take my biology shift electricity gained by biology into his machine by a mother transfer. Space opening in our ovary cell.

In biology a human female is his mother baby consciousness not adult man space theist. Baby cannot theory as man does.

o_O. the little theory he says God O maths owned lightning. Now I will minimise it to Oo small human cell made in gods image. Electricity.

When circular holding of any cell by pressure was the image. Not a reaction. The circle he said owned being.

O reactions are never a held circle.

We live with cells and chemical organ activity. Biology changing chemistry is not electricity.

If he minimised bio chemicals into a machine reaction do you get a human scientist?

No he would claim such a small energy exchange.

Can you enlarge bio chemistry as a mass?

No. It would not equal a biology.

Total theistic lying.

Any answer about human theism and God O holding circles is a lie in reactions ...not holding circles.

Instead he says O infinite space hole applies pressure for a non circle reaction to pass through it.

His machine is not any space hole.

Ask his theist string mind memory why do you believe machine is space zero pressure?

In theory I took removed metal mass as mass out of an earth pressure seam. Now it is empty.

My machine string thesis first.
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I wanted the OP to be a place believers from all kind of religions could discuss, but the non-believers overturned the OP......

I don't mind atheists taking part in I OP I make, but in this one, most answers and questions directed at me come from non-believers :rolleyes: who would know, since the OP was about God

Seems like Atheists LOVE to talk about God....

I didn't know you were referring to nonbelievers in the OP. I usually dont think of atheism in interfaith conversations unless someone else brings it up. People in general, believers and not, may experience God in one way or another. Some believers see other believers as blind or not aware.

It makes it seem like those who are not aware are at fault. I know many Christians believe this,maybe many Muslims, but I haven't heard it anywhere else.

I think you're assuming nonbelievers (all) can't have spiritual conversations because you believe they are ignorant. Can someone aware of the light see others at a disadvantage like that?
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
If a believer has been praying for a long time to God ( put in the God you pray to) but it seems as God does not answer.
That does not mean God isn't answering the prayer, but the answer was given to the person in an unexpected way, so the believer think, God did not answer. But actually it was the believer who was not paying attention:)

Thoughts?

Seven billion people. most of them make a prayer one way or another.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
If a believer has been praying for a long time to God ( put in the God you pray to) but it seems as God does not answer.
That does not mean God isn't answering the prayer
It certainly doesn't mean God is answering the prayer.
but the answer was given to the person in an unexpected way, so the believer think, God did not answer. But actually it was the believer who was not paying attention:)
The NT has various promises that God will answer prayers ─ "ask, and it shall be given", for example. But if that actually worked, there'd be a lot more Christians and no global warming.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
It certainly doesn't mean God is answering the prayer.
The NT has various promises that God will answer prayers ─ "ask, and it shall be given", for example. But if that actually worked, there'd be a lot more Christians and no global warming.
Are they listening or seeing the sign God gives?

Not hearing or seeing the sign, is not only a " problem" for non-believers:) many believers struggle too.

I promise, I missed a lot of the sign my self too.
 

Lain

Well-Known Member
Are they listening or seeing the sign God gives?

Not hearing or seeing the sign, is not only a " problem" for non-believers:) many believers struggle too.

I promise, I missed a lot of the sign my self too.

In such cases I do not think they are, St. James, brother of the Lord Jesus, comments on Jesus' saying "ask and you shall receive" with: "you ask and do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, in order that you may spend it on your pleasures."

People (including myself) often see what they want to see in my opinion. As God says: "my thoughts are not your thoughts, and your ways are not my ways."
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
It certainly doesn't mean God is answering the prayer.
The NT has various promises that God will answer prayers ─ "ask, and it shall be given", for example. But if that actually worked, there'd be a lot more Christians and no global warming.


The verse does not say “ask for anything you want, and it shall be given”.

We’re supposed to ask for God’s support and guidance, I think. And knowledge of His will for us. Not promotion and a pay rise. Praying for our own selfish ends probably won’t be very productive, almost all faith traditions teach this.
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
If a believer has been praying for a long time to God ( put in the God you pray to) but it seems as God does not answer.
That does not mean God isn't answering the prayer, but the answer was given to the person in an unexpected way, so the believer think, God did not answer. But actually it was the believer who was not paying attention:)

Thoughts?
I don't pray to ask for something hardly at all. I pray for spiritual qualities. I also sometimes pray for spiritual qualities for other people. The first unity prayer under "unity" I say every day. It is under unity, but like all revealed prayers it is about more than unity. It is just under the label "unity" for convenience. For some reason, I am skeptical about praying for healing for myself or other people, even though there are revealed prayers for healing in the Baha'i Faith. I have not really seen the evidence that this helps much. At any rate what is material benefit compared to spiritual benefit?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I don't pray to ask for something hardly at all. I pray for spiritual qualities. I also sometimes pray for spiritual qualities for other people. The first unity prayer under "unity" I say every day. It is under unity, but like all revealed prayers it is about more than unity. It is just under the label "unity" for convenience. For some reason, I am skeptical about praying for healing for myself or other people, even though there are revealed prayers for healing in the Baha'i Faith. I have not really seen the evidence that this helps much. At any rate what is material benefit compared to spiritual benefit?
My understanding of prayer is to advance in our religious practices, praying for material goods is a wrong way of prayer
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The verse does not say “ask for anything you want, and it shall be given”.
It certainly doesn't say, "Ask, and if your wish doesn't fall afoul of the unwritten rules it might get consideration on a no-obligation basis".
We’re supposed to ask for God’s support and guidance, I think. And knowledge of His will for us. Not promotion and a pay rise. Praying for our own selfish ends probably won’t be very productive, almost all faith traditions teach this.
What about praying for your family? Your neighbor? The beggar-lady at the park? Does that work better than chance?

Or are the benefits only personal and psychological?
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
It certainly doesn't say, "Ask, and if your wish doesn't fall afoul of the unwritten rules it might get consideration on a no-obligation basis".
What about praying for your family? Your neighbor? The beggar-lady at the park? Does that work better than chance?

Or are the benefits only personal and psychological?

We could discuss the interpretation of Matthew 7:7 and other relevant Gospel passages if you want, but doing so would only be constructive if undertaken in good faith.

Most faith traditions encourage praying for loved ones, and the old lady in the park. Just praying when we can also offer practical help, might not be enough though. Faith without works is dead, after all;

James 2:14-26
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Most faith traditions encourage praying for loved ones, and the old lady in the park. Just praying when we can also offer practical help, might not be enough though. Faith without works is dead, after all;

James 2:14-26
Yes, it's good to have good intentions, but they're not worth much if they don't result in positive actions.

(But it's a bit disturbing that the author of James thinks (at 2:21) that offering your own son as a human sacrifice to a god is "good works".)
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Yes, it's good to have good intentions, but they're not worth much if they don't result in positive actions.

(But it's a bit disturbing that the author of James thinks (at 2:21) that offering your own son as a human sacrifice to a god is "good works".)


I’ll leave that one to Bob Dylan to interpret I think…

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