Bigotry as practice

Audie said:

What lady could possibly resist such
a delightful invitation to a respectful discussion.

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Audie said:

Really took some doing to come up with that

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PruePhillip said:

Clever people, these Jews... just HOW did they 'know', back in Egyptian times,
there would be a Hebrew nation but some nation would end it and exile them
for a very long time. - but they would return to this land after many years of
persecution, in every country, and take it back with the sword.

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firedragon said:

Insults are part of a lot of peoples intellectual argumentation. But, its the same logic.

Ciao.

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SkepticThinker said:

Hell and prison are the same, how?

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SkepticThinker said:

Hell and prison are the same, how?

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firedragon said:

Its an analogy to make someone understand a fallacy.

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SkepticThinker said:

They're not the same so I don't think the analogy holds up.

Hell is forever. And you get sent there for not believing. For eternity.
Prison is not forever. You get sent there for a fixed period of time for committing an actual crime.

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SkepticThinker said:

Hell is forever. And you get sent there for not believing. For eternity.
Prison is not forever. You get sent there for a fixed period of time for committing an actual crime.

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PruePhillip said:

Daniel spoke of the enemy coming in 'like a flood' and destroying the
temple, Jerusalem and the Messiah himself. Jacob said there would
be a Hebrew nation but it would end with the Messiah - and he would
be believed upon of the Gentiles. Isaiah and Ezekiel spoke of a second
return to Israel, at a time when the Jews were in captivity the first time.
The Jews would come out of nations that were their 'graves' and take
back Israel 'with the sword' and rebuild the wasted land. And yet to come,
an attack on Israel by the nations of the Middle East, northern Africa and
what is today Russia (Magod) - but supported by an ally the bible couldn't
name, 'across the sea' who would send fire upon Magog 'from the north'
despite Magog being to the 'uttermost north.'

These things were written in the late Bronze, early Iron Age.

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PruePhillip said:

Off the top of my head, Jacob to his son Judah, in Egypt Bronze Age.
'The sceptre shall not pass from Judah, nor a law giver between his
feet, until Shiloh comes, and in him will be the obedience of the nation.'

So... there will one day be a Hebrew nation, with a monarchy and the
law. But it will end with the Messiah, in whom the Gentiles will believe
as the Hebrews do not.
That's my interpretation of just that one interesting prophesy amongst
many.

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firedragon said:

I never claim that religiosity has anything to do with helping an injured person.

But thanks for the research. I will definitely read them.

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PruePhillip said:

Clever people, these Jews... just HOW did they 'know', back in Egyptian times,
there would be a Hebrew nation but some nation would end it and exile them
for a very long time. - but they would return to this land after many years of
persecution, in every country, and take it back with the sword.

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firedragon said:

The most brutal modern day terrorist groups is the LTTE. They grandfathered the suicide belt. Killed the president of Sri Lanka, and the Prime Minister of India, along with 180,000 innocent people. Most people dont know this because its not in their day to day TV.

They were a Leninist group, atheistic, Hindu background, with secular objectives.

No one knows, and no one cares.

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Truthseeker9 said:

You have to ask yourself, is God telling you that first. I hope I'm understanding your question.

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Kelly of the Phoenix said:

If you were traumatized by every victim since caveman days, you wouldn’t have time to do anything else. Let’s worry about who is getting screwed now.

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firedragon said:

The most brutal modern day terrorist groups is the LTTE. They grandfathered the suicide belt. Killed the president of Sri Lanka, and the Prime Minister of India, along with 180,000 innocent people. Most people dont know this because its not in their day to day TV.

They were a Leninist group, atheistic, Hindu background, with secular objectives.

No one knows, and no one cares.

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Trailblazer said:

Who said hell is forever and who said you get sent there for not believing? I guess you bought off on what some Christians believe.

That is by no means a Baha'i belief. We don't even believe that hell is a place but rather it is a state of the soul who is distant from God. Nobody send us there, we send ourselves by the choices we make in this life. Exactly how that will play out in the afterlife nobody really knows. I believe it is possible that people continue to progress infinitely after they die and people can be drawn to God by His mercy.

Sometimes prison is forever if you get life in prison with no parole, at least it is forever as far as this physical life is concerned.

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SkepticThinker said:

I used to be a Christian. That's what my pastor and everyone in the congregation taught and believed.

We don't "send ourselves there." That's nonsense they used to teach in the church I attended. I don't want to go. But I'll be sent there anyway, right? Not my choice.

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SkepticThinker said:

The difference between hell and prison is that when you die, at least you don't have to stay in prison forever.

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Kelly of the Phoenix said:

God told me that anything He said would be evident in reality. Scripture often is inconsistent with reality.

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