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God discovered by Science

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
except that positive energy is not negative energy and gravity stems from a deformation of space/time itself according to Einstein's theories. So, bringing positive energy/mass together with what we would consider negative energy does not eliminate both, making a net result of zero in the form of nothing existing but instead represents a net change of entropy of zero. That is not nothing, that is something.

Entropy increases with time. It is never zero
 

Suave

Simulated character
Energy
The first law of thermodynamics, also known as Law of Conservation of Energy, states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; energy can only be transferred or changed from one form to another. ... In other words, energy cannot be created or destroyed.

This is how science discovered an area of God

Stating that God is many things and that God is power and since power is energy

Therefore since science says
. Energy can not be created or destroyed

There for God exists

Because science shows that there is a force that can not be created and that force can not be destroyed

They called that force energy

While the Bible calls that force God

The linkage is very clear for all to see the evidence from scientists research

If science never found this force then Bible theories maybe said to be lying but here science found it and science explain it exactly the way Bible explains it

God can not be created and God cannot be destroyed same as energy definition

Is this not marvelous in our eyes


Glory to God

Welcome to RF.

Pig brains have been kept alive for over 36 hours after the death of the pig's bodies. What if human brains could also be kept alive after the death of the bodies from where they were embodied? What if disembodied minds could be interfaced with power computers connecting disembodied minds to virtual reality worlds? Then who is to say each of us aren't one of these disembodied minds interfaced with a powerful computer by a controller simulating our realities, this being God.


I concur with Nick Bostrom's reasoning why we are very likely living in a simulated reality.

Bostrom argues that at least ONE of the following propositions must be true:

(1) The human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a “posthuman” stage.

(2) Any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof).

(3) We are almost certainly living in a computer simulation.

Since there is a significant chance that a future generation of technologically advanced post-humans will run ancestor-simulations by powerful computers, then we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation.


Indications we might be living in a simulated reality:

1. A particle passing through a double-slit behaves as a wave causing an interference pattern when unobserved, but this same particle doesn't create an interference pattern when its path of travel can be determined by an observer. This collapse of the wave-function could be happening in order to save computational resources necessary for our simulated reality.

2. This mark of intelligence left in our genetic coding might be indicative of an intelligent designer, who may be responsible for the simulation of our reality. Our genetic code's creator has left this mathematical pattern in our genetic code conveying to me the symbol of an Egyptian triangle as well as the number 37 embedded in our genetic code.
Eight of the canonical amino acids can be sufficiently defined by the composition of their codon's first and second base nucleotides. The nucleon sum of these amino acids' side chains is 333 (=37 * 3 squared), the sun of their block nucleons (basic core structure) is 592 (=37 * 4 squared), and the sum of their total nucleons is 925 (=37 * 5 squared ). With 37 factored out, this results in 3 squared + 4 squared + 5 squared, which is representative of an Egyptian triangle.
I would not expect there to be a mathematical depiction of an Egyptian triangle stored within genetic coding if it were a naturally occurring phenomenon. The mathematical pattern of the number 37 being used as a key factor for conveying an Egyptian triangle might related to the gematria value of 37 appearing in the Hebrew language of Genesis 1:1.

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3. Theoretical physicist Dr. S. James Gates Jr. claims that a certain string theory, super-symmetrical equations describing the nature and reality of our universe, contains embedded computer codes; these codes have digital data in the form of 0's and 1's identical to what makes web browsers function, and they're error-correct codes.


In conclusion, with the wave-function collapsing in order to conserve computational power of a simulator device, a semantic message in genetic coding, and the computer coding found buried deep within the mathematical equations of super symmetry., seems to me like we are living in a simulation.
 
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setarcos

The hopeful or the hopeless?
Scientifically speaking and by scientifically, I mean accurately. Energy is merely the capacity of a system to do work, measured in joules. A falling rock is an energy system, potential gravitational energy being converted into kinetic energy. Energy has no existence outside of a physical system. Secondly. The first law can be violated if but temporarily, by quantum indeterminacy. For example virtual photons are spontaneously emanating from zero point energy fluctuations everywhere, since they are particle anti particle pairs. They mutually annihilate before the universe notices. Unless this fluctuation occurs around the event horizon of a black hole. Then one of the pairs can escape as Hawking radiation and the other falling in. Shrinking the mass of the black hole over time, at a rate proportional to the surface area of the black hole.
By what method do we calculate the potential energy of quantum indeterminacy? If you cannot calculate its potential you cannot calculate a net capacity of zero energy. Prier to the collapse of the field. The particles are not emanating from nothing. They are emanating from something. Something already existent. How then do we calculate the properties of violation of the 1st Law?
 

Azrael Antilla

Active Member
By what method do we calculate the potential energy of quantum indeterminacy? If you cannot calculate its potential you cannot calculate a net capacity of zero energy. Prier to the collapse of the field. The particles are not emanating from nothing. They are emanating from something. Something already existent. How then do we calculate the properties of violation of the 1st Law?
They are emanating from the fabric of spacetime itself.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Energy doesn't talk and give dictations. It has no human incarnation and no ten commandments.

Calling energy God doesn't make it the god of the bible. We are all energy but the Bible doesn't promote pantheism.

"Energy doesn't talk and give dictations"

One wouldn't think chemical reactions would either yet here we are chatting using energy from those chemical reactions. :)
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
"Energy doesn't talk and give dictations"

One wouldn't think chemical reactions would either yet here we are chatting using energy from those chemical reactions. :)

It wrote the ten commandments and told Jesus to due for people or be doomed?

I know some religions experience energy and use it for say healing but, really, now.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Or it could be that you dont understand energy?
The study of energy in physics is mostly bookkeeping,
but energy itself is way, way outside of the realm of understanding of you, or any physicist.
Or perhaps it is you that has no understanding of energy. I think that appears to be the most liklely.

Anyone that tries to attach woo woo to energy does not appear to understand it at all.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
except that positive energy is not negative energy and gravity stems from a deformation of space/time itself according to Einstein's theories. So, bringing positive energy/mass together with what we would consider negative energy does not eliminate both, making a net result of zero in the form of nothing existing but instead represents a net change of entropy of zero. That is not nothing, that is something.
That looks like it might be a bunch of word salad. By the way, when I was speaking of "nothing" I was speaking of a case of "zero energy". The actual concept of "nothing" may be impossible in our universe.
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Energy
The first law of thermodynamics, also known as Law of Conservation of Energy, states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed; energy can only be transferred or changed from one form to another. ... In other words, energy cannot be created or destroyed.

This is how science discovered an area of God

Stating that God is many things and that God is power and since power is energy

Therefore since science says
. Energy can not be created or destroyed

There for God exists

Because science shows that there is a force that can not be created and that force can not be destroyed

They called that force energy

While the Bible calls that force God

The linkage is very clear for all to see the evidence from scientists research

If science never found this force then Bible theories maybe said to be lying but here science found it and science explain it exactly the way Bible explains it

God can not be created and God cannot be destroyed same as energy definition

Is this not marvelous in our eyes


Glory to God
Well if science ever discovers God expect it to be a great moment.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
The problem with the OP's argument is that she does not understand energy. In physics energy is mostly bookkeeping. And it turns out that there is both positive energy, usually seen in the form of light or kinetic energy,, or mass itself since technically mass is energy, for positive energy, and usually seen in the form of gravitational potential energy for negative energy. Physicists have measured the total energy of the universe. And as closely as they can determine the total energy of the universe is zero. So a universe from nothing does not violate the First Law of Thermodynamics.


I can provide links and sources if people wish.

Experimental proof for the observable universe being a "zero-energy universe" is currently inconclusive. Gravitational energy from visible matter accounts for 26–37% of the observed total mass-energy density.[14] Therefore to fit the concept of a "zero-energy universe" to the observed universe, other negative energy reservoirs besides gravity from baryonic matter are necessary. These reservoirs are frequently assumed to be dark matter.
 

setarcos

The hopeful or the hopeless?
Entropy increases with time. It is never zero
Entropy, when it "moves" from its current position to its future determination generally goes from less entropy to more in a closed system.
However in an open system entropy can decrease within that system. That is when a net increase in energy is applied to that system. That is how we create new stuff like cars and tv's etc. We increase entropy in one system in order to decrease entropy in another. One can see however that a general increase in entropy in our universe will eventually reach a point at which it is at its maximum. That is a point at which energy has reached its maximum dissemination an no further work is possible. In an open system the amount of entropy increase can be countered exactly by an equal amount of energy input resulting in a net work increase of zero. What I meant...a net increase of entropy in the system of zero.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Entropy, when it "moves" from its current position to its future determination generally goes from less entropy to more in a closed system.
However in an open system entropy can decrease within that system. That is when a net increase in energy is applied to that system. That is how we create new stuff like cars and tv's etc. We increase entropy in one system in order to decrease entropy in another. One can see however that a general increase in entropy in our universe will eventually reach a point at which it is at its maximum. That is a point at which energy has reached its maximum dissemination an no further work is possible. In an open system the amount of entropy increase can be countered exactly by an equal amount of energy input resulting in a net work increase of zero. What I meant...a net increase of entropy in the system of zero.

So you think the universe is an open system? I guess you best let the physicists and cosmologists at cern and the perimeter institute. I see a nobel prize for your insight.

BTW. There ain't no such thing as a free ride, over time cars and tv succumb to entopy just like everything else
 

We Never Know

No Slack
So you think the universe is an open system? I guess you best let the physicists and cosmologists at cern and the perimeter institute. I see a nobel prize for your insight.

BTW. There ain't no such thing as a free ride, over time cars and tv succumb to entopy just like everything else

When people speak of "the universe" they need to keep in mind we only know around 4%(if that) of the universe. The other 96% we can't see, detect or even comprehend, IOW its unknown.
 
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