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What is your definition of religion?

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I think I covered that already. Above you honestly mentioned that unicorns are mythical but you want to use that point even when you have no idea that God is mythical. Therefore apples and animals. It was as misapplied as mine was.


Show your version of god is not mythical and i will review your evidence, until you, or anyone can do that, then i will see gods as mythical entities of old folk tales. Therefore nothing. Apples are demonstrable, they exist, can be observed and measured, they can be analysed and their genetic history seen. I never mentioned apples So please don't call me a lair


Faith, in my definition, is to believe something even though your senses haven't yet perceived.

So?

Your knowledge and everyones knowledge combined , even as much as we know, is infinitesimal.

Speak for yourself.

An atheist believes there is no god with the infinitesimal amount of knowledge they have. It is a faith statement because it is not based on knowledge because the amount of knowledge everyone has is insignificant to what is yet to be discovered.

An atheist measures the evidence for god... NONE... no belief required.

So, your declaration is not based on real knowledge until you have all knowledge. It is your faith,.

My declaration is based on thousands of years and billions of people failing to provide evidence for gods. As far as i am concerned that equates to knowledge that no gods exist in any evidenced state. Provide evidence and you may change my view.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Show your version of god is not mythical and i will review your evidence, until you, or anyone can do that, then i will see gods as mythical entities of old folk tales. Therefore nothing. Apples are demonstrable, they exist, can be observed and measured, they can be analysed and their genetic history seen. I never mentioned apples So please don't call me a lair

I'm not here to "prove" my God. My statement is simple... your position of faith is based on a limited knowledge because you have no idea of who or what exists in the cosmos. It is a faith statement of belief (on your part) as I have my statement of belief.

You have not "observed or measured" what is in the cosmos so, by logic, for you to make a statement of "no god" is based on your faith statement.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
And very much in a Christian context.

All definitions of religion will therefore be based on how much a belief system resembles Christianity.

Hence people will use terms like worship, god, supernatural, belief, etc. in their definitions which exclude many other religions.

Not similar enough to Christianity, not a religion.

There is no meaningful way to differentiate religions from non-religious belief systems that is not culturally or historically biased (towards Christianity as a normative religion).

Religion is a useful shorthand in conversation, but as a meaningful category it's somewhat useless and confuses more than it enlightens.


Rome was a deeply religious society long before Christianity, was it not? Romans in the time of the republic prayed regularly, consulted the gods, took part in rituals conducted by priests. These are all behaviours we would consider religious, by any modern definition of the word.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I'm not here to "prove" my God. My statement is simple... your position of faith is based on a limited knowledge because you have no idea of who or what exists in the cosmos. It is a faith statement of belief (on your part) as I have my statement of belief.

You have not "observed or measured" what is in the cosmos so, by logic, for you to make a statement of "no god" is based on your faith statement.

And i am not here to prove my lack of faith in your or any god. I know my own mind, you don't.

Actually cosmology, although it does not know everything about the universe does know a considerable amount. I guess lack of a will to learn will limit understand on this.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
And i am not here to prove my lack of faith in your or any god. I know my own mind, you don't.

Actually cosmology, although it does not know everything about the universe does know a considerable amount. I guess lack of a will to learn will limit understand on this.

Well, cosmology is in part also cultural as what is currently understood as correct. We are always in the end fighting about where subjectivity ends and which subjective understanding is the really correct one.
And that includes how I or you deal with diversity in understanding what the everyday world is.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
And i am not here to prove my lack of faith in your or any god. I know my own mind, you don't.
Never said I did know your own mind... and, yes, you have established to all where you stand, your statement of faith

Actually cosmology, although it does not know everything about the universe does know a considerable amount. I guess lack of a will to learn will limit understand on this.

Considerable as compared to what... to what we didn't know, you are correct. To what we still need to learn, I would disagree.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Inspired by @Conscious thoughts 's thread. Mine? I'm not even gonna touch a definition. Too hard to come up with one that encompasses all religions. If you say your belief system is a religion then it is one. I'm not gonna argue. Most atheists don't say they are a religion. Thus I don't believe they are a religion. Some Satanists say they are others say they are just a philosophy rather then a religion. I consider my beliefs religious tho some dont. I might have a definition but I find it hard to word it.
As a starting point, a religion is a community of shared belief and practice.

I know there's more to it than that. After all, a political party is also a community of shared belief and practice, but a political party isn't a religion.

I do think the community aspect is important, though. One person on their own can have a belief system, but they can't have a religion, IMO.
 
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mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I think at the core, a religion is a community of shared belief and practice.

As a starting point, a religion is a community of shared belief and practice.

I know there's more to it than that. After all, a political party is also a community of shared belief and practice, but a political party isn't a religion.

I do think the community aspect is important, though. One person on their own can have a belief system, but they can't have a religion, IMO.

Depends on how you look based on the glasses you put on.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Never said I did know your own mind... and, yes, you have established to all where you stand, your statement of faith

My statement of knowledge and i am getting a little peed off at you repeatedly calling me a liar, it won't happen again. You know FA about my mindset, so stop impossible your belief onto me.
I am 100% satisfied that no god or gods exist outside the believers mind, so many aspects claimed by god believers are impossible, illogical. You may not like it but that's just tough.

Considerable as compared to what... to what we didn't know, you are correct. To what we still need to learn, I would disagree.

Disagree all you want. Im done
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
My statement of knowledge and i am getting a little peed off at you repeatedly calling me a liar, it won't happen again. You know FA about my mindset, so stop impossible your belief onto me.
I am 100% satisfied that no god or gods exist outside the believers mind, so many aspects claimed by god believers are impossible, illogical. You may not like it but that's just tough.



Disagree all you want. Im done

What is the bold in standard terms?
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
My statement of knowledge and i am getting a little peed off at you repeatedly calling me a liar, it won't happen again. You know FA about my mindset, so stop impossible your belief onto me.
I am 100% satisfied that no god or gods exist outside the believers mind, so many aspects claimed by god believers are impossible, illogical. You may not like it but that's just tough.



Disagree all you want. Im done

Here is my definition of knowledge: I decide based on how I understand it and if it doesn't make sense to me, it is irrelevant for real life for all humans.
That can of course be done differently, but that is irrelevant.

The game we are playing is the correct form of understand including if there can be different ways of doing that in at least some cases.
My answer is yes, but off course you do it differently and I accept that. I just don't do as you do when it comes to some accepts of the definitions of real and life.

So the tough questions are how do words work and how do they connect to objective reality?
As always. You can claim you know it and I just do it differently if I can get away with it.

So yes, you are as far as I can tell a good human, but that doesn't mean I could do your life. :)
 
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