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Kent Hovind's ex speaks out!

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
2 hours long. No thanks..

I get that Hovind is a con artist and royal cad but I'll wait for the highlights on the other side of things.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
I have no Idea who Hovind is. why would I want to know about his treatment of his ex/
As he has been convicted that should be the end of it.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
To revel in the personal horror of a creationist, of course!
(I skipped the video too.)
He is so much more than that. He is a convicted conman that is rather appealing and compelling to some. He could easily become another David Koresh. Many of his followers appear to worship the man.

He is the sort of psychopath that would take his followers down with him, if he thought that it was over for him.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
He is so much more than that. He is a convicted conman that is rather appealing and compelling to some. He could easily become another David Koresh. Many of his followers appear to worship the man.

He is the sort of psychopath that would take his followers down with him, if he thought that it was over for him.
Exactly.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I have no Idea who Hovind is. why would I want to know about his treatment of his ex/
As he has been convicted that should be the end of it.
He is a creationist.

He has a show and a following,

He is a convicted tax cheat and has served a seven-year sentence. If I recall aright, he's facing more charges of that kind.

He is well-known for these things.

He is not very smart, but he's very manipulative.

He's a convicted wife-beater.

Over all, there are some people you wouldn't cross the road to spit on, but he may be an exception.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
He is a creationist.

He has a show and a following,

He is a convicted tax cheat and has served a seven-year sentence. If I recall aright, he's facing more charges of that kind.

He is well-known for these things.

He is not very smart, but he's very manipulative.

He's a convicted wife-beater.

Over all, there are some people you wouldn't cross the road to spit on, but he may be an exception.
He has body slammed both his ex-wife and a young child. He likes to talk tough but as far as I have heard has only tangled with those that are far weaker than he is.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
He has body slammed both his ex-wife and a young child. He likes to talk tough but as far as I have heard has only tangled with those that are far weaker than he is.
Yeah, he is an example of a human. So what? I mean if you want to make a scientific theory of it, have a go. But as it stands, he is is a human like the rest of us.
 

Suave

Simulated character

Strictly speaking this is not an evolution vs. creationism thread. Kent Hovind has been convicted of domestic violence. His ex-wife Cindi Lincoln tells her side of the story.

Not only is Ken Hovind a woman beater, he has not paid his fair share of taxes, he is a convicted tax evader,. He has failed to consistently follow the teachings of Jesus who preached in Mark 12:17, "Give back to Caesar what is Caesar's in reference to a person's obligation to pay his taxes. I can't help but notice many evangelical Christian ministers fail to consistently follow Christ's teachings, their failure to practice what Jesus taught to his disciples demonstrates to me they don't really believe in Christ's messages, but they would rather have wealth and power instead of follow the teachings of Christ such as being a responsible taxpayer or treating people with dignity and respect.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
Yeah, he is an example of a human. So what? I mean if you want to make a scientific theory of it, have a go. But as it stands, he is is a human like the rest of us.

Nobody has denied that Kent Hovind is a human; people are just asserting that Hovind is a dangerous man of extremely poor moral character based on both his own professed moral code or that of any humanist. In fact, there is not a single moral code in which he would come out as a normal let alone virtuous person since he readily broke the "golden rule" axiom against the prohibition of intra-tribal violence and malicious lying.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Nobody has denied that Kent Hovind is a human; people are just asserting that Hovind is a dangerous man of extremely poor moral character based on both his own professed moral code or that of any humanist. In fact, there is not a single moral code in which he would come out as a normal let alone virtuous person since he readily broke the "golden rule" axiom against the prohibition of intra-tribal violence and malicious lying.

Yeah, subjective normative code, Sure. And then what? What comes next?
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
Yeah, subjective normative code, Sure. And then what? What comes next?

To quote Judge Dredd "judgement time".

PS: you got to stop relying on the relativist fallacy to flex your intellectual muscles if you want to be taken seriously. Else, you just sound like a moron, a troll or a person of similar moral character to Kent Hovind in that specific case (or any combination of the three).
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
To quote Judge Dredd "judgement time".

PS: you got to stop relying on the relativist fallacy to flex your intellectual muscles if you want to be taken seriously. Else, you just sound like a moron, a troll or a person of similar moral character to Kent Hovind (or any combination of the three).

Sue, he will be get his day in court and all that. And properly be found guilty. Yes, we agree. And so what, he is a dangerous human and not the only one. But beyond that, what?

I mean we could do a thread about Russian nihilism and agree that some of them were bad humans.
But what are your general positive values and are they opinions or what? That is where it gets hard.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
Sue, he will be get his day in court and all that. And properly be found guilty. Yes, we agree. And so what, he is a dangerous human and not the only one. But beyond that, what?

He has already been found guilty; that's just his ex coming out to talk about her experience of domestic violence which raised the question as to how to prevent Hovind from retaining a wealth of followers who would feed this narcissistic, dangerous ******* and get robbed and frauded by him. That's the "then what".
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
He has already been found guilty; that's just his ex coming out to talk about her experience of domestic violence which raised the question as to how to prevent Hovind from retaining a wealth of followers who would feed this narcissistic, dangerous ******* and get robbed and frauded by him. That's the "then what".

So the ethics of need help versus wants help/understand that they need help. Yes, I have read several books on that. My wife works with that and I know it, because I have been one that needed help, but didn't want it.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yeah, he is an example of a human. So what? I mean if you want to make a scientific theory of it, have a go. But as it stands, he is is a human like the rest of us.
No, he is far worse than the rest of us. Also you are misapplying science here. This is a case for morals. Law and order. Science is an excellent tool for science based problems. But this is not one of those.
 
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