Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
That is just the signals showing in the brain, that in my unis not the consciousness it self
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VoidCat
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Try this out for size. I do not believe in monotheism. Does that make you a monotheist nonreligious?
RestlessSoul
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Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
I see "my self" as spiritual not religious
That is your belief.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Yes that is true
VoidCat
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From Left-Hand Path and Right-Hand Path - Academic Kids
The terms Left-Hand Path and Right-Hand Path refer to a postulated dichotomy between two distinct types of religion. The exact meaning of the terms has varied over time; the most modern usage regards religions which focus upon the worship of one or more deities and the observance of strict moral codes as belonging to the Right-Hand Path, while religions which value the advancement of the self over other goals are considered to belong to the Left-Hand Path. This usage of the terms is invoked almost exclusively by self-proclaimed followers of the Left-Hand Path; followers of religions described as "Right-Hand Path" either argue that this is a means of dividing religions, is a mislabeled or false dichotomy, or, that much of what is called "left hand" is in actuality satanism, or "black magic".
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Left-Hand Path religions are usually said to share the following properties:
- The belief that some people can, by attaining spiritual insight, themselves become akin to gods.
- An exoteric understanding of concepts such as karma, divine retribution, or Threefold Law, resulting in fluid, rather than strict, codes of morality.
- The belief that the individual self is preeminent, and that all decisions should be made with the goal of cultivating the self (though not the ego).
- The belief that each individual is responsible for his own happiness, and that no external force will provide salvation to reward actions which do not advance one's happiness in this life.
- The belief that the forces of the universe can be bent to one's personal will by magickal means, and that power gained in such a manner is an aid to enlightenment.
- An agnostic view of the existence of deities, or a Platonic view of deities as "first-forms." If deity is perceived as having a consciousness, then all relationships with deity are in the form of a partnership, an alliance which does not require subservience. The prideful deity likes prideful partners
Note: you consider the self to be the ego so one of these points you can change...
I'm including this so folks reading know what a left handed path is...also not all these points apply to all paths on these two views.
Ok so atheistic religions with a focus on Self are not religions to you. What about the fact that some left handed paths there is a belief in gods or God or spirits? Also some say Buddhism isn't a religion due to there being usually no belief in a deity. Should not those who practice a belief system not say whether they are a religion rather then those outside it? Should they not define themselves rather then others define them?
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So how do you think a bunny became a symbol of easter?
Most christian holidays are rehashed pagan holidays. A case of joinnour club and you can keep your annual vacation from working the land
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
I believe consciousness is (as they say) an 'emergent property' of the brain. It lasts till the person is alive and not beyond it.
I'd put it this way.
The supernatural elements of any belief system are by definition not about the real world.
Satanism, Christianity, Shintoism, Vudú, Rasta, any and all.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Uncomfortable? About an imaginary idea? Not at all. The imaginary idea is the root cause of much conflict and bloodshed in the world since religions came up. Atheist dismiss it for want of verifiable evidence.
VoidCat
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Now to address your question. I just didn't like the wording. If you disagree with everything I said earlier that is fine. I just was trying to explain my view not debate. Something for you to mull over. Seeing as luciferianism and Satanism both a lot of the time include magick it sometimes is about the spiritual realm. Or at least includes it. Atheists usually don't believe in a spiritual realm altho I have heard of secular witches and atheists who believe in ghosts. Overwhelmingly tho atheists are about the material realm and do not believe in a spiritual realm.. As a person of a left handed path tho the spiritual realm is the here and now. It is the material world. Also many pagans including myself believe the spiritual is also in the here and now altho many may also have a belief in an afterlife or a realm outside of the material realm.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Atheism is a position. It opposes superstition of all types. Apart from religious swords and carrots, Atheists also are unlikely to believe in prophecies, astrology, palmistry, tarot, meaning of dreams, Homeopathy, etc. Refutation of falsehood is a good thing.
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VoidCat
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I'll add there's a difference in my book between not believing in a spiritual realm and believing the material realm is the spiritual realm or the material is included in the spiritual realm.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Well, in India we have many festivals unrelated to religion, Rakshabandhan, Bhai Dooj (festivals of brothers and sisters), Karwa Chauth (festival of married and soon to be married), etc. You too have Father's day and Mother's day. Then there are national festivals of Independence, commorative days of national figures, etc. We have season-related festivals like Basant, Lohri, Baisakhi, Teeyan, etc.
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VoidCat
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Thanks @Conscious thoughts
Your thread inspired me to make a post about definitions and religions since we had such different views on the topic. Religion is a hard word to define so now I'm curious how others define religion.
Your thread inspired me to make a post about definitions and religions since we had such different views on the topic. Religion is a hard word to define so now I'm curious how others define religion.
RestlessSoul
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I think I like the religious ones best. Will you be celebrating Deewali soon?
There are lots of Indians living in my part of North London, so sweets will be distributed generously to all and sundry. And there will be fireworks.
RestlessSoul
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Yes, I know the derivation of Easter.
On the third day, the bunny ascended into heaven. Or that might have been the baby chickens. It all gets a bit confusing.
Anyway, Christianity in Europe has much of paganism in it, as does Buddhism in places like Tibet. Perhaps even atheism has something to bring to the feast?
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Today is Karwa Chauth, the festival of married and soon to be married people. Whole day without food or water for women (some LGBTQ also observe Karwa Chauth - for welfare of the partner
) with feasts after sunset. Yes, we will be celebrating Diwali, sans crackers, banned because they pollute the atmosphere. No big shopping in the markets due to Covid rules, golden period for mail-order firms. Not much interaction with relatives except by phones. Hope things get better soon, although the situation is not frightening except in Kerala.Karwa Chauth - Google Search
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Nimos
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You can be an atheist and believe in energies, spirits or other things. You know people that believe in energies from stones, astrology or numerology, just not believing that a God or intelligent creator is behind it.
Such things would still be considered superstitions or supernatural beliefs, since no proof of it have ever been presented. But I do agree that there is a good chance that the majority of atheists do not believe in these things.