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Do you sin every day?

Do you sin every day?

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 60.0%
  • No

    Votes: 8 40.0%

  • Total voters
    20

Dan From Smithville

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Staff member
Premium Member
When I read parts of the Bible and Quran I just get angry because it goes against my conscience and strikes me as cruel and bigoted.

Yet Jesus, Mary, Fatima, Muhammad, deceased Muslims, Solomon, David, Jewish victims of the holocaust, Christian Saints, are all Kami I pray to.

I don't feel I can go on getting grace from the Kami I love if I keep bashing them.

I love the Kami, I just can't stand bigotry and torturing people, which is in the Old, and new testament speaks of people tossed into a lake of fire where there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

And Jesus said if you don't eat his flesh and drink his blood you have no life in you. What does such a statement say about Jews? It seems very counterproductive to unifying believers and divides people, and leads to harsh judgments that people are unsaved for not belonging to a sect.

But, I can't keep getting grace from God if I keep bashing him, I feel.

But Israel does mean "contender with God". Jacob became Israel by fighting with God all night and winning. He also stole his blessings from Esau by lying, deception, and breaking God's rules with the scheming of naughty Rebecca :p, so that the twelve tribes and Messiah descend from his bloodline.

Esau was Isaac's favorite. Jacob was Rebecca's favorite. The woman trumped the will of the superior of the household , by being naughty and manipulative, pulling the right strings, and deception.

It makes me wonder if we fight with God and break his rules, if we can receive blessings and graces from God, as Jacob did, if we fight the right way and break the rules just right.

But I have failed the Kami. :( I was hoping Shinto could be a common bond other Religions could have that brings unity. All Religions that believe in Spirits , Angels, or God , believe in Kami , and they already embrace the only infallible Shinto teaching.

I'm not bringing unity by insulting Abrahamic faiths. My goal was to get people to follow charity and their conscience above ancient text or Dogma.

Shinto I like , because we can't argue over what the founder taught or did, because no one knows who it started with. There are not inerrant Kami-inspired Scriptures to interpret and argue over.

It leaves us a lot of room to follow our conscience and individual path in Shinto.

But still, the Prophets and Kami of Abrahamic faiths, are still Kami I need to love and please, even if I don't like their behavior.

I keep trying not to bash them, but I sin every day. My faith is a mix of Shinto, Catholicism, Egyptology, Taoism, Judaism, Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, Tengriism, Native American Shamanism, in the sense that I try to take the good virtue , some ethics, some morals, some disciplines, some philosophies, from each, and venerate the Kami behind those forces , and the Kami who practiced those faiths while alive.

Anyhow, do you sin daily?
Probably just posting some of my questions or standing up for science is seen as a sin by some. Fortunately, their views do not count. However, yes, I sin and probably daily. Women still exist right.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
When I read parts of the Bible and Quran I just get angry because it goes against my conscience and strikes me as cruel and bigoted.

Yet Jesus, Mary, Fatima, Muhammad, deceased Muslims, Solomon, David, Jewish victims of the holocaust, Christian Saints, are all Kami I pray to.

I don't feel I can go on getting grace from the Kami I love if I keep bashing them.

I love the Kami, I just can't stand bigotry and torturing people, which is in the Old, and new testament speaks of people tossed into a lake of fire where there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

And Jesus said if you don't eat his flesh and drink his blood you have no life in you. What does such a statement say about Jews? It seems very counterproductive to unifying believers and divides people, and leads to harsh judgments that people are unsaved for not belonging to a sect.

But, I can't keep getting grace from God if I keep bashing him, I feel.

But Israel does mean "contender with God". Jacob became Israel by fighting with God all night and winning. He also stole his blessings from Esau by lying, deception, and breaking God's rules with the scheming of naughty Rebecca :p, so that the twelve tribes and Messiah descend from his bloodline.

Esau was Isaac's favorite. Jacob was Rebecca's favorite. The woman trumped the will of the superior of the household , by being naughty and manipulative, pulling the right strings, and deception.

It makes me wonder if we fight with God and break his rules, if we can receive blessings and graces from God, as Jacob did, if we fight the right way and break the rules just right.

But I have failed the Kami. :( I was hoping Shinto could be a common bond other Religions could have that brings unity. All Religions that believe in Spirits , Angels, or God , believe in Kami , and they already embrace the only infallible Shinto teaching.

I'm not bringing unity by insulting Abrahamic faiths. My goal was to get people to follow charity and their conscience above ancient text or Dogma.

Shinto I like , because we can't argue over what the founder taught or did, because no one knows who it started with. There are not inerrant Kami-inspired Scriptures to interpret and argue over.

It leaves us a lot of room to follow our conscience and individual path in Shinto.

But still, the Prophets and Kami of Abrahamic faiths, are still Kami I need to love and please, even if I don't like their behavior.

I keep trying not to bash them, but I sin every day. My faith is a mix of Shinto, Catholicism, Egyptology, Taoism, Judaism, Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, Tengriism, Native American Shamanism, in the sense that I try to take the good virtue , some ethics, some morals, some disciplines, some philosophies, from each, and venerate the Kami behind those forces , and the Kami who practiced those faiths while alive.

Anyhow, do you sin daily?
Yes, I am not able to carry out everything I should as a sufi, and my action, words and thoughts srill contain sin within it.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
By sin I mean vice and defects that prevent you from being the best version of yourself, or offending or disobeying the Divinity or Kami Spirit (s) you cherish.
Gods, kami spirits are not involved since I am an atheist. The sins are against humanity. It depends on the definition of sin (how strict and lenient is it). Perhaps I sin everyday but inadvertently. For example, if I waste a lot of food, then I am a sinner.
 
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Trailblazer

Veteran Member
In my understanding that is the way to get into heaven.
Is that what Sufiism teaches, that you have to be perfect?

Mind you, Baha’is do not believe that heaven is a geographical location, but a Baha’i once asked the Guardian of the Baha’i Faith (Shoghi Effendi) how to get to heaven, and here was his answer...

"To 'get to heaven' as you say is dependent on two things--faith in the Manifestation of God in His Day, in other words in this age in Bahá'u'lláh; and good deeds, in other words living to the best of our ability a noble life and doing unto others as we would be done by. But we must always remember that our existence and everything we have or ever will have is dependent upon the mercy of God and His bounty, and therefore He can accept into His heaven, which is really nearness to Him, even the lowliest if He pleases. We always have the hope of receiving His mercy if we reach out for it."

(From a letter written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi to an individual believer, January 12, 1957)

Lights of Guidance (second part): A Bahá'í Reference File
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Is that what Sufiism teaches, that you have to be perfect?

Mind you, Baha’is do not believe that heaven is a geographical location, but a Baha’i once asked the Guardian of the Baha’i Faith (Shoghi Effendi) how to get to heaven, and here was his answer...

"To 'get to heaven' as you say is dependent on two things--faith in the Manifestation of God in His Day, in other words in this age in Bahá'u'lláh; and good deeds, in other words living to the best of our ability a noble life and doing unto others as we would be done by. But we must always remember that our existence and everything we have or ever will have is dependent upon the mercy of God and His bounty, and therefore He can accept into His heaven, which is really nearness to Him, even the lowliest if He pleases. We always have the hope of receiving His mercy if we reach out for it."

(From a letter written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi to an individual believer, January 12, 1957)

Lights of Guidance (second part): A Bahá'í Reference File
A Sufi strive to become like God (not become God) And to be like God one has to be as "perfect" in mind and spirit as possible. and that is the only reason a Sufi lives, to use this life to perfect them "selves" or in other words let go of every aspect of the lower self. Since the belief in the lower self is what keeps us here in the physical world, .
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
No, of course I don't sin every day. Every other day perhaps, but since sin is not part of my worldview, it is more like inadequacy to function as I would like - as to many things - but my conscience is hardly in an uproar over such. :eek:
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Do I sin every day?

I certainly try to; blaspheming is my favourite, I quite like not keeping the Sabbath holy too; also , I really enjoy 'coveting my neighbours stuff'
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
What is a sin? Give me an example. What sins do you commit? Is just living a sin in God's eyes? Why? I do not buy things that I do not understand just because they are written in a book.
A sin is doing what goes against your conscience or is breaking the rules of a creator or supreme set of laws some Heavenly being (s) has set in place for you to follow.
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
What is a sin? Give me an example. What sins do you commit? Is just living a sin in God's eyes? Why? I do not buy things that I do not understand just because they are written in a book.
Losing your temper unnecessarily, doing frivolous things when you should be serving mankind. There are many more, but sin is what some Christians think it is, like mainly sex.:D
 
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