As long as they are preserved in some form recognisable as churches. That's all I'm asking
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European Christian Heritage
- Thread starter Rival
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Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
What do you think of chapels that become private residences?As long as they are preserved in some form recognisable as churches. That's all I'm asking
Not a fan. I don't like them being desacralised.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, I don't mind. And again your version of European clashes with mine. So it goes on.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Ok. Given you said "As long as they are preserved in some form recognisable as churches" what would you find acceptable as repurposing? (is that even a word?)
Spiderman
Veteran Member
@Rival
is a hero to Christianity and isn't Christian, and a hero to the victims of the suicide of Europe.
I refrain from posting about topics like this, or try to, because I get too emotional and offend too many people, which causes a mild moderation nightmare, with many reports.
I proposed a solution to the crises and rape epidemic , and death of Europe a while back, and people were very offended and began reporting me constantly.
I was taught in school to despise European traditions, culture, Religion, history, and feel guilty, ashamed, and feel like Europeans needed to atone and make reparations.
It wasn't just Europeans that did bad things. Native People of every continent, every ethnicity, and many Religions conquered people, had slaves, and fought wars of aggression.
Europeans did a lot of good things too. Countless people risk their lives to find asylum in Europe.
@Rival , congratulations on posting about a topic very dear to my heart in a way that is appropriate and not offensive.
is a hero to Christianity and isn't Christian, and a hero to the victims of the suicide of Europe.
I refrain from posting about topics like this, or try to, because I get too emotional and offend too many people, which causes a mild moderation nightmare, with many reports.
I proposed a solution to the crises and rape epidemic , and death of Europe a while back, and people were very offended and began reporting me constantly.
I was taught in school to despise European traditions, culture, Religion, history, and feel guilty, ashamed, and feel like Europeans needed to atone and make reparations.
It wasn't just Europeans that did bad things. Native People of every continent, every ethnicity, and many Religions conquered people, had slaves, and fought wars of aggression.
Europeans did a lot of good things too. Countless people risk their lives to find asylum in Europe.
@Rival , congratulations on posting about a topic very dear to my heart in a way that is appropriate and not offensive.
To be quite honest, the day the last stone from the last church falls in the head of the last priest in Europe, that day will be a great day.
Ciao
- viole
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
@Rival
is a hero to Christianity and isn't Christian, and a hero to the victims of the suicide of Europe.
I refrain from posting about topics like this, or try to, because I get too emotional and offend too many people, which causes a mild moderation nightmare, with many reports.
I proposed a solution to the crises and rape epidemic , and death of Europe a while back, and people were very offended and began reporting me constantly.
I was taught in school to despise European traditions, culture, Religion, history, and feel guilty, ashamed, and feel like Europeans needed to atone and make reparations.
It wasn't just Europeans that did bad things. Native People of every continent, every ethnicity, and many Religions conquered people, had slaves, and fought wars of aggression.
Europeans did a lot of good things too. Countless people risk their lives to find asylum in Europe.
@Rival , congratulations on posting about a topic very dear to my heart in a way that is appropriate and not offensive.
I do get "White man's guilt". I just accept that my ancestors are a significant part of the problems around the world even today and even I am a part of the problems.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
That is your opinion, I have another even as an atheist.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
That we have religious freedom and if that version of religion stays around within the secular law, then that is how it should be. I don't choose the religion for other humans and they don't choose mine.
Spiderman
Veteran Member
I don't agree with plenty in Catholicism, but the Catholic church has done more to feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, educate people, house the homeless, and give to the needy more than any institution in history.
I'm not going to report your post, because I never do that, but if I said "the day the last stone from the last mosque falls on the head of the last Muslim Imam in Europe, that day will be a great day."
My post would get deleted for hate speech and undermining the forum purpose.
Many Europeans hate Christianity and would fain see it completely gone. It's baffling to say the least. So getting some to care about this is an uphill battle because they'd rather we just forgot it ever existed.I don't agree with plenty in Catholicism, but the Catholic church has done more to feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, educate people, house the homeless, and give to the needy more than any institution in history.
I'm not going to report your post, because I never do that, but if I said "the day the last stone from the last mosque falls on the head of the last Muslim Imam in Europe, that day will be a great day."
My post would get deleted for hate speech and undermining the forum purpose.
Augustus
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There's nothing more British than the the tradition of performative anti-Britishness displayed by the liberal middle class
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I don't hate Christianity. I just don't do as they sometimes tell me to do.
Well, me neither dude, and on this forum I practically live to trash it but my bf is a Christian and so I've mellowed.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, my wife is Christian so the same with me.
Sand Dancer
Crazy Cat Lady
Unless people there are anti-religious I don't think it would be a problem socially or politically. I get the history part. The US history doesn't go far back, but Europe definitely does. I do like the rich history it has.
I have come across many anti-religious people here. I even have to hide my own religion from my grandparents. It's not worth the hassle.
Augustus
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Universal faiths cannot comfortably coexist with each other. Accepting the Christian roots of their faith punctures the conceit of its universality and rationality.
To accept that their ideology is a culturally contingent product grounded in religious mythology rather than an ideologically neutral and universal blueprint for humanity's future is beyond most Children of the Enlightenment™.
It's the emotionally comforting myth favoured by those who sincerely believe they have outgrown the need for emotionally comforting myths.
As such they are necessarily as blind to reality as the fundamentalist who needs to bend the world fit their literalist reading of scripture.