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Why did God create homosexuality?

Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
Subduction Zone said:
You must have taken a biology class or two. Your poor reasoning indicates that you have not. Both penises and vaginas are the product of evolution. They evolved together. And the evolution of each relied upon the evolution of the other. That doesn't mean that they were made for each other.
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I have never heard anything quite that illogical. Whether they were made for each other is related to their purposes, not how or when they evolved. Their purpose is to produce offspring, not to have fun. The reason sex is fun is to guarantee the continuation of the species.
 
Praise Jah

Praise Jah

Psalm 83:18
Subduction Zone said:
If God cannot lie then you cannot interpret Genesis literally. The evidence against the myths of Genesis are so strong that to claim that they were real is calling God a liar.

And no, we understood how humanity arose. It is not the fairy tale from the Bible.
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The Bible is not a fairy tale. "All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.” (2Timothy 3:16-17)

God's Son, Jesus Christ, constantly referred to the Hebrew Scriptures to support his teaching. In fact, during the course of Jesus' ministry, he is known to have referred to or expressed thoughts that parallel passages from about half of the books of the Hebrew Scriptures and yes, that includes the book of Genesis. (Genesis 2:24; Matthew 19:5) (Genesis 7:1-24; Luke 17:26-27)
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Praise Jah said:
The Bible is not a fairy tale. "All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.” (2Timothy 3:16-17)

God's Son, Jesus Christ, constantly referred to the Hebrew Scriptures to support his teaching. In fact, during the course of Jesus' ministry, he is known to have referred to or expressed thoughts that parallel passages from about half of the books of the Hebrew Scriptures and yes, that includes the book of Genesis. (Genesis 2:24; Matthew 19:5) (Genesis 7:1-24; Luke 17:26-27)
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Parts of it are. But I see that you do not understand the verse that you quoted. It does not say that scripture is literally true. It does not even imply that.

And that Jesus supposedly used the Old Testament is a big " So what?". It does not prove that he believed that literally. And if you claim that he did you are also claiming that he was in no way divine.

Do you know what circular reasoning is?
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
DNB said:
unfortunately, I do
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It is unfortunate how they interpret things in the 19th century as opposed to today. When people read the bible literally and depend on the words and not the context it causes problems. Differences in theology is one thing but it goes beyond that. That's why I emphasis it-it's a problem that when it harms others can't be excused because "god said it."
 
DNB

DNB

Christian
Trailblazer said:
The proof of God's love is that even though God does not need humans for anything at all, God does not kill every one of us, but rather He sent Jesus to save all of us.

John 3:16 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

I cannot imagine what God thinks of people who throw that back in His Face, or what will happen to them. It's a good thing for them I am not God because I am nowhere near as merciful.
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Couldn't have said it better myself - the utter and reckless blindness of the fool.
 
DNB

DNB

Christian
pearl said:
A homosexual union or marriage may be a committed relationship based on love every bit as a heterosexual marriage. When homosexual marriage became legal there were many over fifty who were in a committed relationship, and finally allowed to live their love as others do. You can not accept that because you apparently rely on you're assumption that homosexuality is a choice. I understand, if you give up that stance, you must accept that homosexuals are every bit as much, God's creation as you or I.
As in both orientations there are sexual encounters that have nothing to do with love, simply sex.
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All sinners are God's creation, and He has shown love and providence to all, and mercy and compassion through Christ. I am a Christian because I believe that I a m a sinner, and as to that, just as much as a homosexual and deserve to die.
But, i do not excuse or forgive homosexuals for their sin, and i especially do not embrace it, or try to glorify it in some desperate and naiver manner. All my sins are by my own volition, and I am aware of most of them. I do not excuse my perverted thoughts as being common or natural, and especially not God-given.
Homosexual activity is abnormal and mentally unsound. Being effeminate or butch are not admirable traits.
 
DNB

DNB

Christian
Evangelicalhumanist said:
That is quite wrong. Many, many non-Christians are perfectly able to discern right from wrong, beneficial and harmful, so your statement is completely ridiculous.
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I never said that others cannot be morally sound. I simply said that your accusation about me was fallacious - my sentiments are entirely Christ-like. Thus, your comment was completely ridiculous....just saying.
 
DNB

DNB

Christian
Unveiled Artist said:
It is unfortunate how they interpret things in the 19th century as opposed to today. When people read the bible literally and depend on the words and not the context it causes problems. Differences in theology is one thing but it goes beyond that. That's why I emphasis it-it's a problem that when it harms others can't be excused because "god said it."
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Yes, context rules in exegesis. But, God is Holy and Immutable, His intrinsic attributes are not contingent upon dispensations or eras, cultures or emotions. What was once wicked in God's eyes, has always been, and remains so for eternity.
Quite playing the victim card, we all must make sacrifices in order to control our desires. When I was an irresponsible partier or womanizer, who didn't consider my ways to be wrong or harmful, I have no defense of my actions just because the stigma or accusation of being a playboy or player, may have hurt my feelings.
 
Evangelicalhumanist

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
DNB said:
I never said that others cannot be morally sound. I simply said that your accusation about me was fallacious - my sentiments are entirely Christ-like. Thus, your comment was completely ridiculous....just saying.
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You are trying to alter what you actually said, and I'm not going to let you. Here is your quote:

"The ability to discern right from wrong, to distinguish between beneficial and harmful acts, is derived from Christian love."

I made no "accusation" about you whatever. I said nothing more than "many non-Christians are perfectly able to discern right from wrong, beneficial and harmful, so your statement is completely ridiculous."

Do not use subterfuge to try and make a liar out of me, for I am none.
 
DNB

DNB

Christian
Evangelicalhumanist said:
You are trying to alter what you actually said, and I'm not going to let you. Here is your quote:

"The ability to discern right from wrong, to distinguish between beneficial and harmful acts, is derived from Christian love."

I made no "accusation" about you whatever. I said nothing more than "many non-Christians are perfectly able to discern right from wrong, beneficial and harmful, so your statement is completely ridiculous."

Do not use subterfuge to try and make a liar out of me, for I am none.
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You need to re-read the expression in the context that it was meant. My love for Christ and truth compels me to abide by his will, therefore i assess and weigh everything in order to determine what is the most beneficial to man, and pleasing to God. In other words, without Christ, I wouldn't care about my responsibilities towards my neighbour.
Atheists may refrain from doing wrong for other reasons i.e. their kids or families, fear of consequence, desire to not hurt or inconvenience someone, possibly love for justice and equity etc...

I'm not saying that their devoid of righteousness. I'm saying that my judgements against homosexuality, and all sexual deviations and perversions, are derived from my cognizance of Christ - you were the one that was saying that I wasn't Christ-like due to my contempt for the gay lifestyle. I denounce homosexuality in the name of God and Christ.
Now subterfuge that!
 
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