Police, vaccinated or not!

Terrywoodenpic · Oct 19, 2021

Suave said:
This pandemic starting nearly 20 months ago, there's been less than a one percent re-infection rate thus far, that leads me to believe most people's SARS-Cov2 antibodies last much longer than one year,

It is not yet know what the full reinfection rate is. It is only known what the reinfection rate is for people that have been tested, which is a small proportion of the population.

While it is true of most people that have healthy immune systems. It is not true of all those who are now being hospitalised. which is why a third Vaccination is now recommended to the old and others with certain preconditions.

Even people in their 30's and 40's that are fully vaccinated are dying from the complications of Covid.

The effectiveness of the Vaccine declines over time for everyone. it does this at a faster rate for the elderly and some other groups.

Suave · Oct 19, 2021

Terrywoodenpic said:
As it is now a requirement of the Job those that are not vaccinated should be sacked. or at least required to resign,
as they no longer meet those requirements.

The need for the population to be vaccinated is now so clear. I would make Vaccination a statutory duty for everyone,

with only those with a genuine proven medical counter indication exempted.

The time for ***** footing around is now over.

I seriously doubt our community could afford to replace half its police force, having to replace the many who won't comply with the city's vaccine mandate.

Suave · Oct 19, 2021

Revoltingest said:
I'd rather have a healthy cop with all his shots
than a potentially infectious contumacious fool.

Forty-six percent of CPD aren't vaccinated.

Revoltingest · Oct 19, 2021

Suave said:
Forty-six percent of CPD aren't vaccinated.

Cops...not the brightest & best educated tools in the shed.

Twilight Hue · Oct 19, 2021

metis said:
Generally speaking, there is nothing that mandates this for the company unless it's already in the contract. A union may address a change, but without prior agreement this would not be binding on the company.

It's truly pathetic that you and so many others prefer playing politics over saving people's lives, including our childen. Could you and they stoop any lower?

You can try the stupid guilting garbage on someone else. It dosent work on me.

I defend people's freedom of choice. It's too bad you don't respect freedom of choice or individual liberty.

I don't think stooping gets any lower than disregarding that freedom so I'm still a bar higher than you are on that level.

Twilight Hue · Oct 19, 2021

Terrywoodenpic said:
As it is now a requirement of the Job those that are not vaccinated should be sacked. or at least required to resign,
as they no longer meet those requirements.

The need for the population to be vaccinated is now so clear. I would make Vaccination a statutory duty for everyone,

with only those with a genuine proven medical counter indication exempted.

The time for p***y footing around is now over.

Screw that. Even though I agree people ought to get the vaccine, I'm not trading actual freedoms for a sense of safety and security.

Revoltingest · Oct 19, 2021

Twilight Hue said:
Screw that. Even though I agree people ought to get the vaccine, I'm not trading actual freedoms for a sense of safety and security.

What about the freedom to not hire
employees who pose a disease risk?

Twilight Hue · Oct 19, 2021

Wildswanderer said:
Anyone can infect anyone. We know that by now and can throw away the idea that the vaccine changes that.

Colin Powell is proof of that.

He did all the right decisions and still died of complications. Sometimes life goes that route and people need to accept their mortality and the way things are and not act like they can be saved all the time by a miracle drug.

Suave · Oct 19, 2021

Twilight Hue said:
Screw that. Even though I agree people ought to get the vaccine, I'm not trading actual freedoms for a sense of safety and security.

My freedom ends where somebody else's nose begins. Right?

Twilight Hue · Oct 19, 2021

Revoltingest said:
What about the freedom to not hire
employees who pose a disease risk?

Risk?

Don't ask don't tell.

Diseases don't just come from.employees you know.

Twilight Hue · Oct 19, 2021

Suave said:
My freedom ends where somebody else's nose begins. Right?

Cover your own nose.

Simple.

Revoltingest · Oct 19, 2021

Twilight Hue said:
Risk?

Don't ask don't tell.

Diseases don't just come from.employees you know.

Employees are filthy animals.
They need their shots.
If they won't vaccinate, why should I be forced
by government to hire these disease vectors?
After all, I have freedom too.

Suave · Oct 19, 2021

Twilight Hue said:
Cover your own nose.

Simple.

Sorry. I had gotten that quote wrong. I should have written, my freedom to swing my arms ends where somebody else's nose begins.

Twilight Hue · Oct 19, 2021

Revoltingest said:
Employees are filthy animals.
They need their shots.
If they won't vaccinate, why should I be forced
by government to hire these disease vectors?
After all, I have freedom too.

HIPAA. It was passed for a reason.

Twilight Hue · Oct 19, 2021

Suave said:
Sorry. I had gotten that quote wrong. I should have written, my freedom to swing my arms ends where somebody else's nose begins.

There you go. Just be prepared for a bit of a scrap.

Mano to Mano! ;0]

Revoltingest · Oct 19, 2021

Twilight Hue said:
HIPAA. It was passed for a reason.

Vaccine mandates exist for a reason.
Is freedom only for employees?
They're just entitled irresponsible contumacious fools.
Don't like my requirements....then work somewhere else.
A job isn't an unconditional right....til the commies take over.

2nd time I've used that word in one day.
Usually go all year avoiding it.

Kooky · Oct 19, 2021

Twilight Hue said:
Diseases don't just come from.employees you know.

Sounds like a good argument to get employees vaccinated.

metis · Oct 19, 2021

Wildswanderer said:
Anyone can infect anyone. We know that by now and can throw away the idea that the vaccine changes that.

Obviously, you're not familiar with the research on this or that you just don't care.

Yes, anyone can infect anyone, but that's using the argument of "false equivalency". You might well have said "Everyone is going to die anyway, so why not just let the kids play on an expressway?".

IOW, taking the vaccine protects not only you but also those whom may associate with you by choice or happenstance since vaccines reduce the chances of spread. That's the science on this, not the politics.

metis · Oct 19, 2021

Suave said:
This pandemic starting nearly 20 months ago, there's been less than a one percent re-infection rate thus far, that leads me to believe most people's SARS-Cov2 antibodies last much longer than one year,

Not according to the research, but what does have a more lasting affect is that once you have covid your body, if it's in good shape, "remembers" what you had, thus making it easier and quicker to produce antibodies if reinfected. But if one is elderly, then their age works against them.

Valjean · Oct 19, 2021

Funny how people employed to promote and enforce public safety are proving dangerous and anti-social themselves.
Seems rather hypocritical.

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