Correct, it cannot tell us about the imaginary
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Dear Atheists, tell me what you DO believe
- Thread starter ChristineM
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Correct, it cannot tell us about the imaginary
So another ‘belief’ you have is that the paranormal/spiritual is just imagination. That sounds like it should be one of your answers to the OP question.
ecco
Veteran Member
I know one thing you believe; there is never a good reason to miss an opportunity to proselytize.
Unless you can prove otherwise that's the way it is.
ecco
Veteran Member
Why?
To paraphrase Lincoln out of context: The world will little note, nor long remember, what we say here...
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
Have you ever seen a design with no designer?since it is on a debate section... I thought I would add to the debate.
Have you ever seen a design with no designer? The design itself is hard evidence.
Love (as in loving your children) is the hard wire of who God is.
Quite often. Every time it gets cold enough for the windows to frost over I can see the design of hundreds of different snowflakes against the glass and not a single one of them had a designer. Looking at the creek flowing near my house on a sunny day I can see innumerable different patterns and designs from the sunlight reflecting off the flowing water, none of which had a designer. Just look up at the clouds in the sky and you're bound to see images and designs in the puffy formations, none of which had a designer. The list goes on and on.
I’m not claiming proof but rather a preponderance of evidence and argumentation fully considered.
So you may also have a belief in ‘scientism’ which I don’t share.
I think you and i have a different thread hold for what counts as evidence
Oh and now we have the insults... Cool
Do you necessarily consider 'scientism' to be an insult? Some people are willing to own that viewpoint.
Scientism - Wikipedia
Scientism is the view that science is the best or only objective means by which society should determine normative and epistemological values.
Do you think there are other means (such as spiritual traditions) that you respect?
People tend to throw the applet "scientism" as an insult.
Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
I mean, why not?
I actually meant it as a valid way to look at things. If science hasn't proven it (the spiritual) then I am not going to believe it. That is scientism.
Nope, first, science is not in the business of proof but of examining falsifiable evidence.
Second science has no evidence for "spiritual". Without evidence bit cannot study it.
It is not scientism, it is a non issue
Spiritual and paranormal experience are not 'non issues' or just imaginary to me (even if science doesn't have tools to study them).
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yeah, there is nothing new in your point. You want me to agree. That we can agree is shared individuality and not mutual external experience or hands-on.
In effect you want a shared subjective rule, that only the objective matters, but that it matters, is subjective.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
What you consider relevant or not, are in both cases not science, as in neither cases there is no falsifiable evidence.
Science is a human behavior, for which there are other human behaviour possible. That is the problem.
Religion is natural and a part of the world or it is unnatural and thus a part of the world is unnatural/non-natural or what not.
Here is a newsflash for you. There is no evidence for what science is and there are different versions of it and not just yours. What is science is, is cultural and can change.
Fair enough. It would be boring if we were all the same