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A Bunch of Reasons Why I Question Noah's Flood Story:

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Noah's descendants were not Gentiles..
If however they were Gentiles it would not make any sense...
It was Noah's grandsons that went in the Isles of the Gentiles..
So the question still remains.
Where did the Gentiles come from..
If the flood of Noah's was supposedly covered the whole Earth..
So where did the Gentiles come from in
Genesis 10:5 ????
OK, did you read the entire chapter? First of all, I think you need to consider verse 5 of chapter 10 in several translations. Not all of them say "Isles of the Gentiles." Are you aware of that? Notice:
New International Version
(From these the maritime peoples spread out into their territories by their clans within their nations, each with its own language.)

New Living Translation
Their descendants became the seafaring peoples that spread out to various lands, each identified by its own language, clan, and national identity.

English Standard Version
From these the coastland peoples spread in their lands, each with his own language, by their clans, in their nations.

Berean Study Bible
From these, the maritime peoples separated into their territories, according to their languages, by clans within their nations.

King James Bible
By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

Of these, only the King James Bible has the isles of the Gentiles. The others do not for the same verse. But keep in mind that Noah was not a Jew, neither were his sons.
 

Dan From Smithville

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Staff member
Premium Member
Where would the water recede to in the flood myth?
One wonders. On an entire planet covered in water, how does it recede and to where. If it were to some surface drain to some vast underground chamber, what was plugging it up to allow the water to accumulate? How come we cannot find that chamber now? For every attempt to support the flood, dozens of questions arise demanding answers.
 

Dan From Smithville

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Staff member
Premium Member
OK, did you read the entire chapter? First of all, I think you need to consider verse 5 of chapter 10 in several translations. Not all of them say "Isles of the Gentiles." Are you aware of that? Notice:
New International Version
(From these the maritime peoples spread out into their territories by their clans within their nations, each with its own language.)

New Living Translation
Their descendants became the seafaring peoples that spread out to various lands, each identified by its own language, clan, and national identity.

English Standard Version
From these the coastland peoples spread in their lands, each with his own language, by their clans, in their nations.

Berean Study Bible
From these, the maritime peoples separated into their territories, according to their languages, by clans within their nations.

King James Bible
By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

Of these, only the King James Bible has the isles of the Gentiles. The others do not for the same verse. But keep in mind that Noah was not a Jew, neither were his sons.
So which translation is the One True Word? Is it by consensus? I know how much you hate consensus.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Noah's descendants were not Gentiles..
If however they were Gentiles it would not make any sense...
It was Noah's grandsons that went in the Isles of the Gentiles..
So the question still remains.
Where did the Gentiles come from..
If the flood of Noah's was supposedly covered the whole Earth..
So where did the Gentiles come from in
Genesis 10:5 ????
First of all, as I said, the waters receded. So obviously there was land for Noah's descendants to settle on. The word Gentiles means nations. Notice what chapter 9:18 says:
"The sons of Noah who came out of the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And Ham was the father of Canaan. 19These three were the sons of Noah, and from them the whole earth was populated."
It says that from the three sons of Noah was the whole earth populated. They had offspring.
 

Dan From Smithville

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Staff member
Premium Member
First of all, as I said, the waters receded. So obviously there was land for Noah's descendants to settle on. The word Gentiles means nations. Notice what chapter 9:18 says:
"The sons of Noah who came out of the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And Ham was the father of Canaan. 19These three were the sons of Noah, and from them the whole earth was populated."
It says that from the three sons of Noah was the whole earth populated. They had offspring.
I would hate to have been the winner of that recessive trait lottery. Even if they swapped wives, all that inbreeding would be a nightmare for the descendants.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
One wonders. On an entire planet covered in water, how does it recede and to where. If it were to some surface drain to some vast underground chamber, what was plugging it up to allow the water to accumulate? How come we cannot find that chamber now? For every attempt to support the flood, dozens of questions arise demanding answers.
Volcanic mass is inside it's owned tunnels.

Father's spirit memory tells me. Unlike our science adult man baby brother father originally in new life was no scientist.

The heavens by sun as a universe attacked owns a pre recorded history that transmits images recorded of hot bodies cold bodies dead bodies living bodies which is first advice as human advice ignored is gods created univ ersal advice.

Image was owned by suns causes not man's causes as first the teaching advice.

Ignored. The bible written by men of science and theists.

Healthy spiritual men invented science became changed depraved irritated men. Fall of man by gas light burning irradiated fallout. Gods heavenly protection balanced between immaculate and daylight changed.

Told exactly what you did as holy men.

Between non science holy men.life to recorded satanic science men life's a interactive cause effect was formed.

Naturally effected but by AI machine of man's causes.

That is and was human advice for spiritual humanity. Your brother the theist just a human lies by coercive purposes.

The sun formed earths Atlantis crystal melt as sAtanlit the hell sun.

It penetrated with radiation earths body by deep shafts. Water flowed in and sealed off volcanic mass in tunnels.

Sin holes were gods O the earth first.

So when men theoried sun nuclear conversion SION it says I Son.

A son is only a human.

Years ago one recorded vision and memory said the native in America had murdered our holy human father's spirit as a theist of Satanism.

Mayan pyramid Egyptian...india Indians avedic notification. Nuclear attack.

Pyramid sun nuclear mountain converting of God the earth.

∆ crystal mountains became opened sin holes. Were the first mountain on earth. Earth cold owned a different facure. Non alight heavens gases.

Why he reformed as not Noah's Ark a ground Jesus mountain hit. Reactivated attack that UFO hit ark became v reversal of the mountain ground hit.

Made new sink holes. Jesus themed not Noah's Ark was a new science attack. A reversal of Noah's Ark. As God as water body had stopped Noah's Ark. As men had scientific rebuilt a false mountain.

A pyramid. Temple built on the mountain transmitting to pyramid temples on ground.

Mountains don't own lava.

He built as men Temple on mountain yet a volcano mountain owned the gas origin release first of gods heavens.

The reasoning men of science lied about one earth sun to earths O origin attack.

Why he tried to convert a mountain into a volcano. The volcano owned gas release.

Put a machine in a cave or a tunnel the theory says I want volcanic mass to penetrate the machination as gods owned beginnings as a science thesis to convert earth.

Always knew the sun converted God earth first itself.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
I would hate to have been the winner of that recessive trait lottery. Even if they swapped wives, all that inbreeding would be a nightmare for the descendants.
The history says once where salted sea was naturally science of man never lived as no tree garden historic. As the sea mass shifted. Men could now live on the sea floor desert.

Some life body cover was inherited in nature.

Seeing all outcomes were phenomena witnessed by the living humans who invented human nuclear ground dust science.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
OK, did you read the entire chapter? First of all, I think you need to consider verse 5 of chapter 10 in several translations. Not all of them say "Isles of the Gentiles." Are you aware of that? Notice:
New International Version
(From these the maritime peoples spread out into their territories by their clans within their nations, each with its own language.)

New Living Translation
Their descendants became the seafaring peoples that spread out to various lands, each identified by its own language, clan, and national identity.

English Standard Version
From these the coastland peoples spread in their lands, each with his own language, by their clans, in their nations.

Berean Study Bible
From these, the maritime peoples separated into their territories, according to their languages, by clans within their nations.

King James Bible
By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

Of these, only the King James Bible has the isles of the Gentiles. The others do not for the same verse. But keep in mind that Noah was not a Jew, neither were his sons.

First of all..
I only go by the KJV 1611..
All those other translations have to much of Man's teachings Incorporated in them.

The KJV 1611 is the only one that comes closer to the original manuscripts.
Of the Greek and Hebrew....
Than any of those other Bible's..
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
First of all..
I only go by the KJV 1611..
All those other translations have to much of Man's teachings Incorporated in them.

The KJV 1611 is the only one that comes closer to the original manuscripts.
Of the Greek and Hebrew....
Than any of those other Bible's..
Men in science quote I believe the light God of Satan is holy.

Just as a human thinker

Then he builds a Machine total effect artificial.

First holy Satan or light of God theories then destroyed back to nuclear non alight sludge in natural causes.

Consciousness a liar says he never did it Satan did. As a human.

His non science human brother said but you are the satanist that did it.

Meaning of man said the machine reaction did it. How could a human man as just a man Human do it.

So we got taught human consciousness and how and why it developed lying.

As the bible is the human teaching about human consciousness as a theist actually.

Who theories when there was no light yet consciousness exists because of light.

God the natural body did it he said.

In other words men as a human blamed God as natural causes yet the machine changed God.

Man was told he never owned god as natural God bodies in mass. He only owned a human mans man life.

Only men compare a human life body to an ape monkey.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Your called into question by your own question..
Before you can say it's all myth..what proof do you have that the flood being a myth.
Again, realize that the word "myth" does not mean nor imply falsehood.

So, why do we use the word "myth" here? Because the importance of the narratives is to teach basic early Judaism. "Parables" are also "myths", thus whether the "Good Samaritan" actually existed as a real person is unimportant as the moral of the parable is what's important. This actually was debated in the early Church, btw, and the consenses was just that-- it's a moral lesson using storytelling.

There is not one shred of evidence that the flood as depicted was an actual event, and it defies basic logic as well.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Again, realize that the word "myth" does not mean nor imply falsehood.

So, why do we use the word "myth" here? Because the importance of the narratives is to teach basic early Judaism. "Parables" are also "myths", thus whether the "Good Samaritan" actually existed as a real person is unimportant as the moral of the parable is what's important. This actually was debated in the early Church, btw, and the consenses was just that-- it's a moral lesson using storytelling.

There is not one shred of evidence that the flood as depicted was an actual event, and it defies basic logic as well.

As for the Samaritan and Priest and the Levite...we're actually people.
The Priest and Levite are brothers of Israel..
The Samaritan being a half brother of Israel..
Now as for the flood of Noah's..
The flood of Noah's was not the first flood of water on the Earth..
There was another flood which happen way before the flood of Noah's.

I can only guess that you had no clue or idea about that??
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
As for the Samaritan and Priest and the Levite...we're actually people.
And exactly how do you know this, whereas the theologians in the early Church supposedly didn't?

There was another flood which happen way before the flood of Noah's.

I can only guess that you had no clue or idea about that??
The above is far too bizarre for me to even try and deal with.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
And exactly how do you know this, whereas the theologians in the early Church supposedly didn't?

The above is far too bizarre for me to even try and deal with.

That's because you have no knowledge or understanding of anything about the
Bible/Scriptures what is said and Confirm's..
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
And exactly how do you know this, whereas the theologians in the early Church supposedly didn't?

The above is far too bizarre for me to even try and deal with.


The Priest and Levite are brothers of Israel.
The Samaritan being a half brother of Israel..
Therefore your knowledge is very limited.

As for the Samaritan being a half brother of Israel...
In the book of John 4:1-44..
As Jesus Christ came to a well a Samaritan woman approached Jesus Christ at the well and said to Jesus Christ.
In Verse 12, are your greater than our father Jacob which gave us the well.

Therefore making the Samaritans and Israel half brothers and sisters.
Both Israel and the Samaritans had the same father Jacob..but not the same Mother.
Thereby making Israel and the Samaritans half brothers and sisters..

Therefore the Priest and Levite being brothers of Israel and the Samaritan being a half brother of Israel..
 

ecco

Veteran Member
One wonders. On an entire planet covered in water, how does it recede and to where. If it were to some surface drain to some vast underground chamber, what was plugging it up to allow the water to accumulate? How come we cannot find that chamber now? For every attempt to support the flood, dozens of questions arise demanding answers.
What's your problem? GodDidIt! And God knows how HeDidIt.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
That's because you have no knowledge or understanding of anything abboout the
Bible/Scriptures what is said and Confirm's..
Oh, is that right? So, taking college courses in Christian theology and then teaching it at both a church and syngogue left me with "no knowledge", right?
:rolleyes:

The Priest and Levite are brothers of Israel.
The Samaritan being a half brother of Israel..
Therefore your knowledge is very limited.
This has nothing to do with what I posted as the issue was dealing with "parables" and other forms of "myth".

Therefore the Priest and Levite being brothers of Israel and the Samaritan being a half brother of Israel..
So what?

Your condescending arrogance is duly noted, so please let me know when you decide to get off your rocking horse and then maybe we can have an adult discussion OK? Until then, ...
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
If you accept a groups teaching model it's just human. It's not anything else. It's an applied form of human indoctrination.

Science as a quote says it experiments to learn. Creation theories of men. Machines don't exist. The tool used as experimenting.

Yet the thesis first is not any experiment.

A machine owning no purpose except human applied designed for the practice human science. Hopes their design corresponds with a thesis.

Says first activation is an experiment to correlate right or wrong. As a machine status. As form and energy materials exist already.

If science the community and it's practiced reasons were correct human murder and espionage would never have been used. To be allowed by their say so to practice whatever they wanted.

When any organisation uses those tactics the human is first notified they are one hundred per cent wrong. If their belief human is I am truly correct those tactics would never be used.

A teaching medical history said witness of human life sacrificed phenomena effects was a stigmata. Is relative to occult science which is nuclear cause effects.

Has nothing to do with human group or organisation criminal activity past or present.

It was a scientific biological and medical reasoned notification.

The human healer was the ancient human medical advice. Psychic. The same as any visionary occult scientific theme pondered by just a healthy human. Who can think using spiritual consciousness the psyche.

Now if in our humans past our human father and mother's spiritual natural human status surpassed any type of human life today. Then it was lived and recorded in image voice and mannerisms.

And 2012 was when Phi fallout crops circle UFO was to end. Then the holy father spiritual witnessing would emerge prophetic in human healed DNA expressed. As we were only 100 years away from DNA returned to a past origin human awAreness.

1900 Russia hit with unnatural cosmic return.

Allowing human bio chemical conscious responses is via healed genesis DNA. Our proof once everyone was a family of spiritual consciousness as humans.

Behaviours and changed interactive relationships proof science changed our chemistry and body responses. As human biology and consciousness.

Consciousness is involved with beliefs. As how we feel chemically plays a vital role in what we can express as human wisdom.

Messages of our father. His love for me owns no challenge. Which he has proven in my life.

Our brother the satanic scientist seemed to think a human man father was a God just because our holy human father was so spiritual.

God in science is a body of mass he resources then converts as his thesis is not to own natural energy holding like a vacuum does or a planet. He wants the energy of his design.

His design never owned by science natural energy as it was held by terms he expressed were the gods states.

Which is where the theist just a human lied.

As his intention is not to own God he wants God converted.

As he is already by two energy statuses converting god mass. That advice is everyone else's answer. He wants what God never was.

We live by God support is pretty basic human commonsense.

How his information is misquoted as a theist just a human who lives and thinks.
 
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