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Teens in California mock anti maskers on video along with, "I love Communism".

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Video shows teens mocking anti-maskers protesting their school: "I love communism"

One was told to go to Cuba to learn what communism was. She replied she was from Cuba, then she was called stupid.

So it's now acceptable to mock those who don't want to wear a mask?

Supporting hive mind thinking vs individualism?

It would be better had the teens made a productive video educating people on the benefits that wearing a mask brings yet choose the consendening route.

Also it's interesting how this has been politically minuplated that it becomes a component of a political system rather than a health issue.

Lastly, one could say teens are teens, and they say and do dumb things at that age for kicks.

Either way it's pretty screwed up imo.

Are they?
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
So it's now acceptable to mock those who don't want to wear a mask?

Supporting hive mind thinking vs individualism?

Isn't wearing a mask a pro-social behavior that help save lives while the opposite is a self-centered decision that facilitate the spread of a highly contagious disease? Is it moral to mock dangerous, selfish and stupid behavior? Is it normal for individual to seek out teenagers to try and convince them of not adopting pro-social behavior that help save lives at little to no cost for themselves? Is following the best advice of medical expert really qualifiable as "hive mind thinking" as opposed to the unsupported, unreasonable, arguments presented by those who opposes masks? If science and social behavior is "hive mind thinking" what are the qualifier for conspiracy theories and quackery supporting opposition to masks mandates in public places? Are you sure you are being offended by the right things in this story?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Isn't wearing a mask a pro-social behavior that help save lives while the opposite is a self-centered decision that facilitate the spread of a highly contagious disease? Is it moral to mock dangerous, selfish and stupid behavior? Is it normal for individual to seek out teenagers to try and convince them of not adopting pro-social behavior that help save lives at little to no cost for themselves? Is following the best advice of medical expert really qualifiable as "hive mind thinking" as opposed to the unsupported, unreasonable, arguments presented by those who opposes masks? If science and social behavior is "hive mind thinking" what are the qualifier for conspiracy theories and quackery supporting opposition to masks mandates in public places? Are you sure you are being offended by the right things in this story?
Health wise I can see the issue being promoted through education and explaining in interesting ways which might promote that desired sense of community and cooperation.

However things tend to get bent out of shape to where things take a compulsory turn and becomes another issue of and in itself.

My particular issue isn't masking hence my announcement on taking vaccine and wearing masks as appropriate, it's the turn towards increasingly authoritarian means to an end as opposed to elective measures and proper schooling of information.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
it's the turn towards increasingly authoritarian means to an end as opposed to elective measures and proper schooling of information.

Don't you think that a group of people actively seeking out to spread bad ideas to teenagers are a reason for increasingly authoritarian measures? Mask mandates and vaccination are only as efficient if they are used by an enormous proportion of the population else their potentially beneficial effect are wasted.

Do you think those anti-masker protestor who sought out these teenagers in front of their school to convince them they are right could be reached by reason, scientific evidences and education? I personally believe those people are definitely affected by a "hive mind mentality" or "groupthink" and will never be able to be convinced using education or reason, at least not in an acceptable timeframe. Why the offense at the teenagers, but not at these protestors? They are the cause of the rise for the increasingly authoritarian measures used to combat the pandemic. They are also actively trying to indoctrinate young people, who have yet to mature enough intellectually and psychologically to be able to reason to the full extend of their capacity. If their sophistry and lies were to convince some and integrate them in their "pseudo-cult", that could be dangerous for us all.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
:thumbsup::thumbsup:
Video shows teens mocking anti-maskers protesting their school: "I love communism"

One was told to go to Cuba to learn what communism was. She replied she was from Cuba, then she was called stupid.

So it's now acceptable to mock those who don't want to wear a mask?

Supporting hive mind thinking vs individualism?

It would be better had the teens made a productive video educating people on the benefits that wearing a mask brings yet choose the consendening route.

Also it's interesting how this has been politically minuplated that it becomes a component of a political system rather than a health issue.

Lastly, one could say teens are teens, and they say and do dumb things at that age for kicks.

Either way it's pretty screwed up imo.

Are they?
Good for them! :thumbsup:

The communism thing is obviously added as a wind-up, given that these anti-mask morons will have a right-wing affiliation.

I certainly think it is acceptable to mock those who choose to parade their idiotic objection to prudent, simple and cheap school safety measures. :D
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Don't you think that a group of people actively seeking out to spread bad ideas to teenagers are a reason for increasingly authoritarian measures? Mask mandates and vaccination are only as efficient if they are used by an enormous proportion of the population else their potentially beneficial effect are wasted.

Do you think those anti-masker protestor who sought out these teenagers in front of their school to convince them they are right could be reached by reason, scientific evidences and education? I personally believe those people are definitely affected by a "hive mind mentality" or "groupthink" and will never be able to be convinced using education or reason, at least not in an acceptable timeframe. Why the offense at the teenagers, but not at these protestors? They are the cause of the rise for the increasingly authoritarian measures used to combat the pandemic. They are also actively trying to indoctrinate young people, who have yet to mature enough intellectually and psychologically to be able to reason to the full extend of their capacity. If their sophistry and lies were to convince some and integrate them in their "pseudo-cult", that could be dangerous for us all.
That's my primary concern. Nurturing Hive mind and cult mentality.

These young adults are going to be in charge someday and will determine the society people will live in.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
:thumbsup::thumbsup:
Good for them! :thumbsup:

The communism thing is obviously added as a wind-up, given that these anti-mask morons will have a right-wing affiliation.

I certainly think it is acceptable to mock those who choose to parade their idiotic objection to prudent, simple and cheap school safety measures. :D
It's ironic though. Givin today's view of progressives as being one of equality and participation. I can see that is actually very linear and narrow in scope favoring one group over another in a superior context.

But true. I do think it's teens being teens. A pecking order of winners and losers. Jocks and Nerds.

Another case for elective distance learning imv.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
It's ironic though. Givin today's view of progressives as being one of equality and participation. I can see that is actually very linear and narrow in scope favoring one group over another in a superior context.

But true. I do think it's teens being teens. A pecking order of winners and losers. Jocks and Nerds.

Another case for elective distance learning imv.
They've seen through the charade, that's all.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Health wise I can see the issue being promoted through education and explaining in interesting ways which might promote that desired sense of community and cooperation.

However things tend to get bent out of shape to where things take a compulsory turn and becomes another issue of and in itself.

My particular issue isn't masking hence my announcement on taking vaccine and wearing masks as appropriate, it's the turn towards increasingly authoritarian means to an end as opposed to elective measures and proper schooling of information.
Do you know why we have speed limits on freeways?
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
That's my primary concern. Nurturing Hive mind and cult mentality.

These young adults are going to be in charge someday and will determine the society people will live in.

And they don't seem to be falling for "hive mind mentality". They seem to understand reason and evidence since they rejected and mocked those who would attempt to lead them down a rabbit hole of conspiracy theories and pseudo-science maintained only by the power of groupthink.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
No. They are pushing their view like a good Communist would. Intolerant of opposition.

What are you talking about? Do you consider "intolerant of opposition" someone who would say "homeopathy has no medical property; it's just a placebo''? Is truth "intolerant of opposition" because it doesn't support lies? Not all debates are debates of personal opinion where each can cling to their own ways no matter the strength of the arguments presented.


Plus, it's not teenagers bullying random people; it's teenagers telling off a bunch of protestors who picketed in front of their schools to try to convince them that their lies are actually true. If someone seeks a confrontation with you and looses badly; you are not being a bully. You are a someone who successfully defended yourself. You are confounding who was seeking out a confrontation and who was confronted there. You also are avoiding to face off who was in the right and who was in the wrong on a factual basis. You seem to be defending "your tribe" no matter "just like a good little hive-mind controlled communist". to borrow your own metaphors.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What are you talking about? Do you consider "intolerant of opposition" someone who would say "homeopathy has no medical property; it's just a placebo''? Is truth "intolerant of opposition" because it doesn't support lies? Not all debates are debates of personal opinion where each can cling to their own ways no matter the strength of the arguments presented.


Plus, it's not teenagers bullying random people; it's teenagers telling off a bunch of protestors who picketed in front of their schools to try to convince them that their lies are actually true. If someone seeks a confrontation with you and looses badly; you are not being a bully. You are a someone who successfully defended yourself. You are confounding who was seeking out a confrontation and who was confronted there. You also are avoiding to face off who was in the right and who was in the wrong on a factual basis. You seem to be defending "your tribe" no matter "just like a good little hive-mind controlled communist". to borrow your own metaphors.
Even if a person is actually Cuban and telling it like it is?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
So the endangered turtles can cross the street.

Oh and the fuel crisis way back in case your memory wasn't as good. I'd say 1974 to properly educate you.
Incorrect. Seriously:

Do you know why we have speed limits?

And when you demonstrate that your own education is lacking you should not be making claims of educating others. The reason that we have speed limits is germane to the conversation.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Incorrect. Seriously:

Do you know why we have speed limits?

And when you demonstrate that your own education is lacking you should not be making claims of educating others. The reason that we have speed limits is germane to the conversation.
Um. I was alive when the national speed limit was enacted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Maximum_Speed_Law

Get yourself an education first, and stop embarrassing yourself.

Unless you think horses still pulled wagons and carriages where the first speed limit was enacted in 1901.

If that's the case, I digress to the wisdom of someone who is older than I.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Um. I was alive when the national speed limit was enacted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Maximum_Speed_Law

Get yourself an education first, and stop embarrassing yourself.

Unless you think horses still pulled wagons and carriages where the first speed limit was enacted in 1901.

If that's the case, I digress to the wisdom of someone who is older than I.

So was I . I was not talking about the 55 mph speed limit of Jimmy Carter. You appear to be projecting again. My education is not the one that is lacking here.

By the way, when a person refuses to answer a reasonable question, or even worse tries to use a strawman argument as you just did, it indicates that they know that they are wrong. They simply cannot admit it to themselves. Everyone else is perfectly aware of how you are wrong here.
 
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