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Dan From Smithville

What's up Doc?
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Premium Member
Nobody loves my paper, not because of flaws. Simply, we had no sex or
other type of personal contact. To get loved by the communities,
you need good social wellness and ability. Otherwise, your work won't be
loved. The more of love, the fewer mistakes they see in your work.
Are you telling me that I could publish more if I had sex with the journal editors?
 

Dan From Smithville

What's up Doc?
Staff member
Premium Member
Sure. "Sex, Guns, and RockenRoll" YouTube.
I think I will continue with the traditional, less exciting path to publication. Unless there is some change in the editorial staff.

Scientific fact A:
Bob loves Vanilie ice cream,

Scientific fact B:
John loves Plombir ice cream.

Scientific fact C: Bob and John can change their ice cream preference in time.
I am not sure you need science to draw that conclusion, but sure.

What do you think about beef ice cream? Will it catch on?
 

Bird123

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"Figure it out" follows a tradition of secular instead of religious enquiry that goes back at least as far as Thales, was kept alive by the recovery of old texts at the dawn of the renaissance, and finally became general at the enlightenment. Science ─ in your example how birds, bees, bats, seeds, spiders, fly ─ gives no support for your claim that

"We are all Spiritual beings in our true natures. Our physical bodies are no more than our transportation in this physical world. The physical body is not doing the thinking and feeling. I have direct experience to this."
Science works by empiricism and induction, and thus has concluded from examinable evidence that your physical brain, integrated with your body, is the source of your "thinking and feeling". This is evident even at a naive level ─ interference with brain function through trauma, drugs, disease, genetics, inoxia, dehydration, age and so on is interference with thinking and feeling.

At more advanced levels, brain research, going back to the 18th century but only gaining real traction with the tools that became available at the end of the 20th, is developing maps of brain function, and descriptions of how brains in fact work. If you're seriously interested in what thinking and feeling are about, you might like to look into what we know about brains, as well as what we know about how birds fly.
So, you say, you have no test for truth? It's a feeling, not a statement connected with reality?
On all the evidence available to me, God exists only as a concept or thing imagined in an individual brain. No other hypothesis fits the data.

If you say God has objective existence, is an entity found in nature, the world external to the self, just show me a photo or video. That will at least have the potential to be persuasive.


your quote:Figure it out" follows a tradition of secular instead of religious enquiry that goes back at least as far as Thales, was kept alive by the recovery of old texts at the dawn of the renaissance, and finally became general at the enlightenment. Science ─ in your example how birds, bees, bats, seeds, spiders, fly ─ gives no support for your claim that

My Answer: You choose to be blind to so much. Science started dipping that toe in quantum physics. Suddenly, those possibilities have really increased. God is hiding nothing. Widen that view. Clearly there is more to see. Why must you wait for others to see first?

your quote:Science works by empiricism and induction, and thus has concluded from examinable evidence that your physical brain, integrated with your body, is the source of your "thinking and feeling". This is evident even at a naive level ─ interference with brain function through trauma, drugs, disease, genetics, inoxia, dehydration, age and so on is interference with thinking and feeling.

My Answer: Have you ever known a person who had a stroke? I have heard it so many times. They tell me they are saying it but it just doesn't come out. If something goes wrong with your car, it doesn't work right. If something goes wrong with your brain, just like the car, it doesn't come out right.

Science deals only with the physical world along with the physical laws of this universe. Science chooses to be blind to all else. On the other hand, there will come a time when things other than this physical world will not be able to be ignored.

your quote:So, you say, you have no test for truth? It's a feeling, not a statement connected with reality?

My Answer: Is that really what I said? You do not understand. Let me try again.

In God's system, no one tells you what Truth is. No one tells you what to choose. No one tells you what to believe. No one tells you how to value things. Each person must Discover for themselves what the best choices are. Each person must Discover what the Truth really is. I can point, however it has never been up to me.

Further, unlike religions, I do not want anyone to Believe. I point to where one can Discover these things for themselves. The base that I will not go below is Math, everything must add up perfectly. Math prevents one from wandering into the believing and feeling realm.

your quote:If you say God has objective existence, is an entity found in nature, the world external to the self, just show me a photo or video. That will at least have the potential to be persuasive.[/QUOTE]

My Answer: Must everything fit into your box of the physical world? Do you even know why this physical world exists? Do you even know that you are a Spiritual being in your true nature?

Find a quiet, dark, comfortable room away from any distractions. Close your eyes and focus inward. Say to yourself: It's me.
That is who you really are. If you are still have trouble seeing, seek out the very youngest of children. Many can still tell the difference. Find the very youngest because this physical world supplies so much sensory input that it isn't long before one is seduced into thinking this physical world is all there is.

This physical world exists because it's time-based causal nature is perfect for learning. Make your choices ; experience the results, in time, when those choices return to you.

We are Spiritual beings placed in a physical body because it confines us to the physical laws of this universe. Would a Being capable of creating all this really confine Himself?? Give me a break here. Stretch that IQ.

Life is the education of God's children. It has never ever been about believing or following. God is not going to intimidate those choices. On the other hand, when one reaches a high enough level of understanding, a visit from God would not be intimidating and would confirm what you have Discover. God knows who is ready. If one is not ready, one would only be confused by the experience. We are mere ants.

Religion and society have corrupted people's thinking into nothing but believing and accepting. This single thing prevents so many from doing the work it takes to really Discover the Truth for themselves.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
 

blü 2

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My Answer: You choose to be blind to so much.
You keep saying that, and you keep saying that, but never any detail, never any clear meaning or testable hypothesis or satisfactory demonstration.

Instead, only as in the realms of fiction, flights of imagination, dreams of shadows and shadows of dreams, fluff. Not that I mind fiction, not that I haven't enjoyed fluff at times, but it's singularly not about reality.
Science started dipping that toe in quantum physics. Suddenly, those possibilities have really increased.
What possibility "really increased", exactly? Again you provide no particulars.
God is hiding nothing.
What does that mean? Taken literally, you (in person, right now) should be able to collect a million bucks for resolving the Riemann Hypothesis, inventing ftl travel, on and on. Why haven't you?
My Answer: Have you ever known a person who had a stroke? I have heard it so many times. They tell me they are saying it but it just doesn't come out. If something goes wrong with your car, it doesn't work right. If something goes wrong with your brain, just like the car, it doesn't come out right.
That's because the brain is real biology, and is the sole thinking device, of course, so that damage to its functions is damage to its output.
 

Bird123

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You keep saying that, and you keep saying that, but never any detail, never any clear meaning or testable hypothesis or satisfactory demonstration.

Instead, only as in the realms of fiction, flights of imagination, dreams of shadows and shadows of dreams, fluff. Not that I mind fiction, not that I haven't enjoyed fluff at times, but it's singularly not about reality.
What possibility "really increased", exactly? Again you provide no particulars.
What does that mean? Taken literally, you (in person, right now) should be able to collect a million bucks for resolving the Riemann Hypothesis, inventing ftl travel, on and on. Why haven't you?
That's because the brain is real biology, and is the sole thinking device, of course, so that damage to its functions is damage to its output.


Clearly, you are not at the point when you are capable of seeing anything other than what you want to see. The narrow view you choose for yourself prevents you from seeing all the possibilities. Example: Why must traveling light years away take ftl capabilities?? You will have a long road with your one dimensional thinking.

You have many things to work through before you will open your mind and view. You will just have to muddle through.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Science a human theorising makes enforced unnatural comparisons.

First observation humans. First observation humans own life by human sex. Sperm a substance. Ovary a cell.

Two hu man parents is not the one human baby self theorising. Known and human advised. First advice in chosen science natural highest observation.

Scientist as a human consciously advised says I own dominion over all other self present forms. Knows by human conscious expressions.

Decides he wants inventions by man human design thesis.

Invention does not exist.
Reaction of invention does not exist.

Exactly advised.

Where is science?

All in his human thoughts beliefs only.

Where is his practice science?

By his inventions.

As natural to observe is a chosen human topic subject to discuss another natural form.

Science says I see crop patterns.

Sees it exactly where it forms.

Is the crop circle a science machine invented built machine?

No.

Is the reaction happening inside of your machine?

No.

Yet you theory why it appears.

You give it a subject of discussion. Change however occurred is seen to the natural status only.

You know that life lives as nature naturally owned in any form on the planets ground owning it's own form at the same time you see patterns.

So you know it is only an occurrence as you observe it by living in your owned natural form.

If you chose not to observe it does any status change in natural?

No.

So if you personally just a human did not choose a topic and apply a chosen human application everything would still just exist naturally?

Yes.

So why isn't this teaching taught to human scientists?

As it is human evidence about humans by humans for humans!

If you see another humans life cellular body change the advice human says it is not natural. The body human owns natural health first.

To choose a topic Jesus. Was life of a human sacrificed meant to occur rationally?

No.

Science says all human life lives balanced and in equal atmospheric conditions.

Rationally it never owned a reason to argue against. As natural human life should not be sacrificed.

We look and see a huge human population sick suffering dying unnaturally. We see it.

If human life was witnessed sacrificed in causes then a study is human chosen as the topic to explain why. By humans for humans as humans.

To any human the advice is medical science. In the past medical advice was given by a healer the human medical practitioner.

Human observation said the light constant was natural. It was holy held in womb void vacuum mother holy space as gases burning. No human owned the constant of light

Science imposed the action by invention to react by inference to the constant of light forced natural light as gas burning to fall out and come to the ground.

Not natural.

If a human said I want to mistreat you. Make you a human victim. Abuse you. The advice says it is abuse. As human consciousness says life is meant to be lived equally.

When all have mans wrongs were chosen in the past. Today taught we are meant to have learnt. We are meant to reason. We are meant to fight for equal life rights to be returned.

Is the human natural teaching.

No life should be living sacrificed the teaching.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The narrow view you choose for yourself prevents you from seeing all the possibilities.
The possibilities you speak of are, as far as I can gather, simply emotional states, imagining imagining. If that's wrong and you're talking about anything real, please describe it to me so that if I find an example in reality I'll be able to identify it.
You have many things to work through before you will open your mind and view.
I can articulate what I'm talking about. You should try it some time.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
My premise is: ``future research will tell us about twice as much as we know in 2021AD''.

From it I derive the theorem: ``somebody has achieved that in 2021AD.''

All you need is to accept the premise, you do not need to accept as a premise the
result of the proof.
That is not how a logical argument works. You must prove your premise. There is no requirement that people have to accept a faulty premise.
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
The possibilities you speak of are, as far as I can gather, simply emotional states, imagining imagining. If that's wrong and you're talking about anything real, please describe it to me so that if I find an example in reality I'll be able to identify it.
I can articulate what I'm talking about. You should try it some time.


Math is neither emotional nor imagined. I have been articulating, however sometimes it's the receiver that is the problem.

Look into the world. Figure the Math, the How, and Why. You will be walking toward God whether you realize this or not.

Is there anything you can Discover on your own or must all of it be served up for you to decide whether to believe or not?

An Action of God: God doesn't just give you the knowledge. Wisdom is acquired on the struggle to acquire knowledge. In pointing, I have supplied the knowledge of where you can Discover it all for yourself. The journey to true knowledge and wisdom can not be done by others. It rests in each of our hands.

I am pointing. Can you see where?? Could it be toward God? The only question that remains is what you truly seek. Seeking God is not what I see you seeking. Still, it has always been in your hands.

That is what I see. It's very clear!!
 

blü 2

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Premium Member
Math is neither emotional nor imagined.
On the exact contrary, the entirety of maths is conceptual. No uninstantiated numbers, no points, lines or planes, no infinities, are found in reality. You can't even count until you've decided what to count, and the field you're going to count it in (two sheep in the red truck, 11 cigarettes left in this packet &c).
Look into the world. Figure the Math, the How, and Why. You will be walking toward God whether you realize this or not.
Now I'll ask you again what real entity you intend to denote when you say "God" and you still won't know. It'll be some idea not found anywhere else but in your personal imagination.
Is there anything you can Discover on your own or must all of it be served up for you to decide whether to believe or not?
So you admit you're unable to say what a real God is. Okay, noted, good to get that clear.
An Action of God: God doesn't just give you the knowledge. Wisdom is acquired on the struggle to acquire knowledge.
You're sounding like a 1950s desk calendar. Is that where you learnt about these things?
In pointing, I have supplied the knowledge of where you can Discover it all for yourself.
No, that's deliberate, wilful nonsense. You know very well you've done nothing of the kind. We both know now that you can't.
 
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