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JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
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Premium Member
Do you have a friend or other person you care for that has polar opposite beliefs as you? This could apply to just about anything; politics, religion, lifestyle, etc.

Do the differing beliefs positively or negatively affect the two of you? Do you intentionally avoid bringing up things that might cause conflict, or do you enjoy bantering about it back and forth? Do you believe the friendship is sustainable long term?
 

VoidCat

Pronouns: he/him/they/them
I have a friend with different beliefs. They are christian, huge conspiracy nut, believes covid vaccines are the mark of the antichrist, being trans is a sin, among other things. All of which I disagree with. But we get along great and talk in depth about many topics especially religion. I've heard her talk about topics I disagree on. She really enjoys listening to my views and I hers. If we offend each other we tell the other and talk about why we got offended and work through it. I believe it could work long term I mean I've been friends with her since I was 14. In fact she is part of RF. Altho doesnt post much.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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Premium Member
Do you have a friend or other person you care for that has polar opposite beliefs as you? This could apply to just about anything; politics, religion, lifestyle, etc.

Do the differing beliefs positively or negatively affect the two of you? Do you intentionally avoid bringing up things that might cause conflict, or do you enjoy bantering about it back and forth? Do you believe the friendship is sustainable long term?

Ironically enough I think I have opposite views of my past self from years before.
But in answer to your query yes I know plenty of folks who have radically opposing viewpoints (in various subjects no less) to me to various degrees. I have older uncles who I will verbally spar with over heated political disagreements. Though it always ends amicably and we don’t take it all that seriously in the end. I think they view it as just a generational divide, nothing to really worry about.
I disagree with my mother’s fervent unshakable belief in Sathiya Sai Baba (no offence to follows of Shri Sathiya, just my personal opinion) but it makes her happy. So I don’t really care to argue with her about it to be honest. I was raised to be universalist after all.
Many of my close family friends (ehh they’re family to me) are Christians, though they are rather chill about their beliefs. So it doesn’t really cause any friction.

I think people today are too caught up in being right. They have to have the last word and prove their “opponents” wrong. But I think it’s important to have friends from a wide array of differing backgrounds and beliefs so we can all grow and learn from each other. I also think it’s healthy to have your beliefs questioned and criticised (with civility of course.) It helps you understand your beliefs better or can open up your worldview to empathise with a different position even.

Though I can certainly understand cutting ties with or just avoiding conflict to keep the peace with folks who deem you or your beliefs “evil.”
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
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Premium Member
Do you have a friend or other person you care for that has polar opposite beliefs as you? This could apply to just about anything; politics, religion, lifestyle, etc.

Yes, multiple friends and my family. For example, my friend circle includes conservative and liberal Christians, Muslims (of varying beliefs as well), Marxists, Marxists-Leninists, and capitalists, among others.

A close friend is an Islamist--a fundamentalist Muslim who believes in Islam as a political manual rather than just a spiritual one. He knows about my beliefs, and we get along quite well.

Do the differing beliefs positively or negatively affect the two of you?

It depends: with family, I accept them as they are, but I definitely can't come out to them as an atheist. So the difference in beliefs affects our relationship negatively because I can't truly be myself with them.

With my friends, the differences generally don't have much effect compared to personality, general attitude, etc. A TERF friend recently said she didn't want to be friends with me anymore because of my pro-trans views, though, and she didn't want to stop talking about the topic. She couldn't stand the disagreement on that.

I believed she could change her mind at some point (as I did in the past) and stayed open to discussion, but I think her views may be too extreme for that as well, unfortunately.

Do you intentionally avoid bringing up things that might cause conflict, or do you enjoy bantering about it back and forth? Do you believe the friendship is sustainable long term?

My closer friendships tend to last for at least a few years, so yes, they've mostly been sustainable in the long term.

As for avoiding certain topics, that depends on the person: as I've said before on RF, my general approach is to be patient with people and not automatically cut them off even when I think some of their beliefs are deeply harmful or immoral. However, some people are more prone to getting upset than others about certain discussions (e.g., the abovementioned TERF friend), so I adjust my approach accordingly.

While I personally adopt the above approach, I also think that some issues are more personal and serious than others, and I don't blame people for not wanting to befriend others who have certain views that go against the former's basic rights or dehumanize them. I can't blame an atheist for not wanting to befriend an Islamist who believes in killing apostates or a black person for not wanting to befriend a white supremacist, for example.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I experience it all the time.

I wouldn't call them friends usually, but people I love very much who have the opposite beliefs.

It usually doesn't affect how much I love and care about the person. It makes me angry at God for not shepherding people and not letting them know what the truth is. I am not a liberal , but I don't like the conservative crowd much either, though I tend to lean more that direction. I tend to argue and debate with conservatives and liberals. There are too many good conservatives and too many good liberals.

I'm opposed to much of what I read in Scripture or the Quran. But I meet so many good Christians and Muslims. They can't both be right on many issues. Somebody is confused, and I place God at fault for the confusion.

I'm very angry and filled with darkness when I read the graphic tortures and calls to bigotry in the Quran, or how violent Islam was at it's founding, and how it spread through violence, or how many violent hateful regimes there have been in the 21st century. Yet most Muslims I feel are good people. When I was panhandling and homeless, many Muslims helped me. So I shouldn't bash their Religion, out of respect for them.

So, I'm not sure what the correct approach to take is. :(
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Do you have a friend or other person you care for that has polar opposite beliefs as you? This could apply to just about anything; politics, religion, lifestyle, etc.

Do the differing beliefs positively or negatively affect the two of you? Do you intentionally avoid bringing up things that might cause conflict, or do you enjoy bantering about it back and forth? Do you believe the friendship is sustainable long term?
A friend of mine is a former soldier in UN forces, he was a soldier in Bosnia vs Serbia war. Even we can discuss it somewhat it is no problem for either of us. Me being a pacifist can not do anything about his past anyway.
And another friend of mine is from Albania who was a victim in the same war.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Do you have a friend or other person you care for that has polar opposite beliefs as you? This could apply to just about anything; politics, religion, lifestyle, etc.
Do the differing beliefs positively or negatively affect the two of you? Do you intentionally avoid bringing up things that might cause conflict, or do you enjoy bantering about it back and forth? Do you believe the friendship is sustainable long term?
Yes, my wife and a friend. No. I will not avoid discussion on subject, but vigorously pursue them. My relationship with my wife or my friend is independent of these discussions.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Do you have a friend or other person you care for that has polar opposite beliefs as you? This could apply to just about anything; politics, religion, lifestyle, etc.

Do the differing beliefs positively or negatively affect the two of you? Do you intentionally avoid bringing up things that might cause conflict, or do you enjoy bantering about it back and forth? Do you believe the friendship is sustainable long term?

I don't really have beliefs, I have views.
Different views will clash and not much can be done about it.
However the best thing I've found to do is to try to see things from their point of view and ask the same in return.
When beliefs/views clash, people need to find a middle ground and go from there.
 

Sirona

Hindu Wannabe
My family are atheists, and I'm a believer as long as I can think of. When I was a kid, my father mocked my beliefs and tried to talk me out of religion. When I became 40, he took me to a famous Hindu temple in Mauritius and bought me a little Genesha murti. I think that's tolerance as far as it can get.
My friends know about my belief. They're atheists, too, but whenever the topic of religion comes up, they tell me about the religious background of their family and ancestors.
 
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