Spirit of Light
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The Last Sermon of Prophet Muhammad.
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The source of this seems to be Hadith, and there appears to be a few different Hadith versions, is that correct?
Regards Tony
Sirona
Hindu Wannabe
What would be the sake of discussion? You're obviously in love with your religion, so you won't see any faults in it anyway. And conveniently, you're not a woman. So keep sitting in your cozy living room in your cozy free country of Norway and keep telling the world that you've figured out what Islam is all about. Keep dreaming. And maybe, eventually you will even convince somebody. After all, dreaming is not forbidden.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
Thank you for that.
Islam is in the biggest mess state out of all religions. It has so many falsehoods that contradict Quran and community doesn't obey the most foundational commands. What's there to love about Islam as is? People who believe and truly believe are waiting for Islam as meant to be to return, because, they are on clear proof from Quran and Sunnah and perhaps if lucky, they met Imam Mahdi (a) and he showed them miracles, as God promises to show signs and guide to himself who turns to him often.
Islam is not pretty, and there is no agreed upon anything in it, and when someone decides to the Sahada at a Masjid, they left the fire into the frying pan (figure of speech) and will face trials.
The falsehood is huge and ways of guidance hardly known, Satan is winning.
I will do my best, but I don't know if I will have any impact in helping Islam or make things worse.
Sirona
Hindu Wannabe
You're welcome.
All this from a book that was sent down with a clear meaning but for 2 billion followers of Islam it has so many,followers of Ali and Muhammad,the sunnah and ahadith,this isn’t clear at all.
That is why the Bab and Baha'u'llah were persecuted when they gave the Messages that are to reform Islam. Islam was so far from the Message of Muhammad that Allah fulfilled the promise that many still await. We are now shown how One God can be embraced without compulsion in any religion, that we are one people, on one planet.
Of course IMHO and that is the quandary we all face with our choices.
Regards Tony
I'm waiting for 12th Imam of Ahlulbayt (a). Baha'allah's offspring couldn't stand the lie so he has no potential Ahlulbayt.
A good point to consider is that the laws given by God are suited to the times.
When Muhammad gave that Law it was amongst barbaric tribal peoples, where having a female child was the worst thing that could happen, many baby girls were buried alive.
The big problem is that many Hadith have been influenced by men who want domination of gender, of race and elevation of self.
What is left of Islam is but a hollow shell, it is hard to find any remaining spirit in those that administer this Faith in this age.
Regards Tony
I hope you find what your heart awaits for Link, I will offer my life to Allah for your heart to find its peace, Allah is my witness.
Regards Tony
My peace is only if I served Ahlulbayt (a) and did something for them and humanity. I don't mind dying once I did something that has an impact for God and his religion of truth.
God is my witness, this all I want, I don't care if I marry or succeed wealth wise, but I will try to marry and succeed wealth wise, so as to help God.
I gave up my attachment to the whore I fell in love with and my intention is to have lived my life for God when I die.
I see man always takes the simplicity from a God given Message.
The Faith is given for Unity of purpose, the laws are given in a wisdom beyond our understanding. Our submission builds a peaceful, loving and progressive humanity.
We are in an age where unity of the entire human race is required, nothing short of our dedication to this goal will find peace in this age.
From my understanding, Muhammad had appointed Ali as the one to succeed him upon his passing, this is a teaching in my Faith. I see this is also supported by Biblical Prophecy where the Islam empire becomes the Beast.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_to_Muhammad
It is an interesting subject, as the Covernant given by Muhammad was not implemented in a way that a unity of purpose was maintained right from the start of Islam, but was directed by men wanting their own views to dominate.
Regards Tony
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This world is indeed our temptation and all It offers can pull us away from what our heart desires, or it can feed what our heart desires.
All the best Link, Regards Tony
Thankyou, it is as Mohammad (s) said "by God, let Iblis and his armies come", I will try to the believer of Auli-Firon or the stranger from a far place in Surah Yaseen calling to the Sent ones (Ahlulbayt) and testify to Baqiyatallah (a) if he comes in the open, and work to bring the truth of religion and a lot on marriage and it's sacred ground and the specific contextual use of Muta... The religion and battle between truth and falsehood at the end, a lot of it or at least half, is about marriage and it's sanctity.
May I turn away from all forms of sexual disgraceful acts including my prayer that God protects me from masturbation.
There is honor and there is disgrace, without honor in society, justice won't be established and oppressors will rule and oppressed rights belittled, and without Hijaab and the sacred commands of God on how men and women should act to one another in the different contexts they may find themselves in, the oppression will get worse, and justice will get further from our reach because desire will rule.
And desire will rule to the extent children will increasingly be sexually trafficked, as it is now increasing, and it won't cease without Islam being restored to proper form and it's justices manifested, each type of justice manifested.
I will ask a question Link.Are you aware that the Bab was a descendent of the prophet Muhammad's family, the Bab traced his lineage from the tribe of Quraysh to his father, Sayyed Muhammad Reza Muhammad?
Regards Tony
I studied Bahaism and Babism since high school and got curious about it time to time. I've read a lot about it and a lot of scripture of it.
It doesn't go with Quran and has contradictions.
I was always aware of the "Syed" claim but I also know there are more Syeds that are not actually Syeds, then there is Syeds that are Syeds. This is has historical reasons.
I see Muhammad (peace be upon him), would want us to be just and fair in determining who is a true and legitimate Syed, less our heart takes us away from all that can be found in the Quran.
Maybe the last sermon can help us all?
Regards Tony
Imams (a) in offspring of Fatima (a) was so others don't claim to be leaders, so that is why Ibrahim (a) would have Imammate in his offspring and same with Nuh (a) and Adam (a). This limits number of fake potential Imams and makes succession easier to pass on.
The problem is that Baha'allah offspring couldn't get themselves to play this game so you have no leaders in offspring of Baha'allah. This shows he is not a Prophet. And you need 12 Successors (a), and say you argue 12th Imam no one saw him and someone argues Ali (a) was in on it, like Pharaoh did with Harun (a), the Quran laid out bring 10 forms of the living reminder that can do miracles and bring signs one after another or at least if you don't believe in miracles, bring 10 and get it to stop at 12 successors. This is because the issue of 12 has been proven.
God is saying either it's going to go on and on, with greedy possessed leaders lying or it's not going to go far, but try stopping at twelve, you can start with a liar for the 2nd (to boot it up) and have the last "hidden" so need to be seen born, but bring 10 Imams blood related after one another, claiming to be successors to the founder. This is the meaning of Surah Hud.
This because Structure of Quran and hadith like it is challenged everywhere. No need of 10 Surahs (chapters) -no need of 10 when it said 1.
There it's as I explained. The other side of the rope of God is the living Qurans, and they can do miracles. He's saying the Twelve Successors - you can't do that at the number start to end with fake revelation.
Baha'allah offspring couldn't go with it alhamdulilah and came to Islam.