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Jane.Doe

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I will tell you what just find one Christian that will agree that Satan is Jesus's brother and a Mormon can call themselves a Christian. You won't find one.
These tiny little differences in faith make a huge difference in the theology.
When find me a Christian that proclaims the Father isn’t the Father of everyone, then we can have a conversation about how they are a different faith than I.

Until then, I’ll keep sing praises to Christ, my Lord & Savior, along side all sorts of people
 
I will pridict at some point that Satan is Jesus's brother will disappear from the church theology it really interferes with the Trinity belief and doesn't work very well. One day it will be just gone - no we never believed that.
 

Jane.Doe

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I will pridict at some point that Satan is Jesus's brother will disappear from the church theology it really interferes with the Trinity belief and doesn't work very well. One day it will be just gone - no we never believed that.
Did you find me a Christian whom believes in a second Father that was Lucifer’s Father?
 
The Gospel of John defines Christian belief:
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome.

No Satan
No human birth
No mary
Just God and the Word and the Word is Jesus long before anything happened. "In the Beginning"
 

Jane.Doe

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The Gospel of John defines Christian belief:
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome.

No Satan
No human birth
No mary
Just God and the Word and the Word is Jesus long before anything happened. "In the Beginning"
Do you have that second Father yet?

Until you come up with that second Father, everyone shares the same one which makes everyone... guess what? Brothers (and sisters).
Does that mean they are all the same or same the righteousness? Of course not.
Now who spends much time at all thinking about this technicality? No one. Except for blatantly hypocritical anti-Mormons.
 
We have a virgin birth in Christianity no father needed.

In the Christian belief Jesus already existed as the word before birth read the gospel of John.
 
Read the gospels yourself I don't need to explain Christianity you know exactly what it is and all the information is available to you at all times and you know the theology of Mormonism is different if you actually are a Mormon - you try to portray it as Christianity - where not getting off topic here the beliefs are very different. I am not getting side tracked by you.
 

Jane.Doe

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Read the gospels yourself I don't need to explain Christianity you know exactly what it is and all the information is available to you at all times and you know the theology of Mormonism is different if you actually are a Mormon - you try to portray it as Christianity - where not getting off topic here the beliefs are very different. I am not getting side tracked by you.
I *have* thoroughly read the Gospels thoroughly many times. And the Bible cover to cover, deeply studying. As well as long stints studying a variety of different Christian faiths at their own house of worship, with their own literature, asking questions to listen & learn.

There all difference between LDS Christianity, Baptist Christianity, Catholic Christianity, Calvinist Christianity, etc. I do not pretend to be any of those and have objections to each one. But the fact that there is only one Father is not a difference.

And I will PROUDLY proclaim my love of the eternal Son of God Jesus Christ as standing as a Christian from the rooftops.
 
Mainstream Christianity belief is the same except Catholics use the sacraments as a way to grace but the belief is the same. The other Christians call the sacraments works and say they do not bring grace. Of course you have those fringe Christian Churches run by one pastor that goes too far - which also happens in the LDS belief but the mainstream LDS is the same - all sorts of stories out there about fringe LDS groups. So no I don't agree.

I have no idea what your talking about or how a second father is needed there is only one God the father whom is part of the Trinity.
 

Jane.Doe

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Mainstream Christianity belief is the same except Catholics use the sacraments as a way to grace but the belief is the same. The other Christians call the sacraments works and say they do not bring grace. Of course you have those fringe Christian Churches run by one pastor that goes too far - which also happens in the LDS belief but the mainstream LDS is the same - all sorts of stories out there about fringe LDS groups. So no I don't agree.
There is HUGE diversity among non-LDS Christians. Subjects like OSAS, Armininism vs Calvinism, 5 Solas, the role of baptism, role of priesthood, or even what books are in the Bible.
I have no idea what your talking about or how a second father is needed there is only one God the father whom is part of the Trinity.
Anyways: every Christian (including LDS ones) believes that there is only one Father in Heaven. He is your Father, my Father, Billy Graham's Father, Christ's Father, and even Lucifer's Father. Which technically makes everyone brothers and sisters. But frankly that doesn't mean you are automatically like Christ-- no way!!! Just that the Father is the Father. Jesus Christ is perfect, you are a filthy sinner (as am I). And you couldn't get two more people whom are more different than Christ (the perfectly obedient and only Son of God) and Lucifer (whom rebelled and got cast out).

That's believed by everyone.
 
Satan in Christianity is a fallen angle not Jesus's brother he was created by God with all the other angels and fell from God grace and was cast out from heaven. The Christian Theology is well know so why do you ask for a father for Satan. This is no father of Satan in Christianity Satan was never a Human Being in Christianity.

See the differences they are enormous.
 
God did not have a human identity until the word was made flesh in Jesus.
Moses asked God if he could talk to him face to face and God say no you would die instantly in my sight and then God says I will pass by and as I have past look and you will see my back.
Just because Josephs Smith changed that doesn't change it for Christianity
 

Jane.Doe

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Satan in Christianity is a fallen angle not Jesus's brother he was created by God with all the other angels and fell from God grace and was cast out from heaven. The Christian Theology is well know so why do you ask for a father for Satan. This is no father of Satan in Christianity Satan was never a Human Being in Christianity.

See the differences they are enormous.
Who was Lucifer ‘s Father ?
Quit try to deflect and answer the question directly.
 
He has no father he was never human he was not conceived as a human being he was created by God as an angel with all the other angels - I am not deflecting its common knowledge in Chritianity

Satan is not a human being in Christianity as much as you would like to you can't change that in Christianity
 
Your statement makes no sense - I didn’t ask about his father. I asked about his Father. What!!!!

Satan has the same origin as every other angel but has no human birth or origin how God made them is unknown. There is no theology on the creation of angels its unknown.
 
Angels are created beings (Psalm 148:2, 5; Col. 1:16). They are non-human spirit beings (Heb. 1:14) and do not naturally possess flesh and bones. They cannot die (Luke 20:36), cannot be numbered (Heb. 12:22), are normally invisible but can manifest themselves to us (Num. 22:22-31). They have no gender (Matt. 22:30) and they do the will of God (Psalm 103:20). Angels guide believers (Gen. 24:7, 40), protect them (Psalm 34:7), and comfort them (Acts 27:24). There are also elect angels (1 Tim. 5:21). They were created without gender (because that is a biological function) but occasionally appear as males in Scripture (Genesis 19:12-13). There are also different kinds of angels: seraphim (Isaiah 6:3), cherubim (Ezekiel 41:18; Genesis 3:24; 1 Samuel 4:4), archangels (1 Thessalonians 4:16; Jude 9), rulers and powers (Ephesians 6:12), and fallen angels (Revelation 12:3-4).

Angels perform different functions as revealed in the Scriptures such as announce the birth of Jesus (Matthew 1:20-21), deliver the law (Acts 7:53; Hebrews 2:2), gather the elect (Mark 13:27), gather the wicked at the end of the age (Matthew 13:39-41), guard the tree of life (Genesis 3:24), minister to people (Genesis 16:7-10), and return with Christ at his second coming (Matthew 25:31; Mark 8:38).

Some angels are good (Gen. 28:12; Psalm 91:11), and some are evil (2 Pet. 2:4; Jude 6). The only angels mentioned by name are Gabriel (Dan. 8:16; 9:21), Michael (Dan. 10:13, 21; 12:1), and Lucifer (Luke 10:18). Michael is always mentioned in the context of battle (Dan. 10:13) and Gabriel as a messenger (Luke 1:26). Of course, Lucifer, who became Satan, is the one who opposes God.

God created for the purpose of serving and carrying out his will. The fallen angels rebelled and became evil angels. Satan is such an angel (Isaiah 14:12-16; Ezekiel 28:12-15). The first mention of an angel is in Gen. 16:7 where it is referred to an angel of the Lord: “Now the angel of the Lord found her by a spring of water in the wilderness, by the spring on the way to Shur.,” (Genesis 16:7). In the New Testament, the Greek word is ἄγγελος, angolos and it occurs 177 times.

This is what Christians believe. Satan will also return in human form as the antichrist and a leader. So yes he does get to be human at some point.
 
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