There is no unity because not enough people have realised my worldview is right yet
I see the best worldview is may God's Will be done and not ours.
If you have that worldview, hey we are one
Regards Tony
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Most "SCARY" invention of mankind. What is it?
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I see the best worldview is may God's Will be done and not ours.
If you have that worldview, hey we are one
Regards Tony
I DELCARE YOU EMPEROR AUGUSTUS... THE SECOND... IN THE NAME OF HORUS.There is no unity because not enough people have realised my worldview is right yet
NOW RISE AND TAKE YOUR PLACE!!!!!
Segev Moran
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I will try to explain my POV.
Each discovery or invention we make, that is a "game changer" (fuel, electricity, gunpowder, atom, antibiotics, etc), can be used for positive and negative.
The abusive power of AI has a potential to affect all the discoveries we made so far, used for positive or negative.
firedragon
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What is the research on this? So basically what you are saying is "doctrine" which is some form of wrong doctrine about God has influenced all the wars. Like the WW2, the Civil war in the U.S, the wars of the British invasions, Stalin, Hitler, all.
I can see where you are going Tony. But thanks for the clarification.
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firedragon
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I understand.
Correct in your summary as to what I offered, but I do not need to go where you think I may have been going.
What I suggest is the Good and Evil that is found in the Bible, the Quran is nearness and remoteness from God and each Message has that potential, and our understanding of that creates the rest.
Regards Tony
It just seems the most sensible approach to me (unless sufficiently evidenced), particularly when we have competing beliefs via cultures or religious beliefs, or anything else, and which might not have any relevance to all and just locally originated. And when one has travelled a bit, apart from what one sees as naturally coming from the history or culture, people do tend to behave much the same - with regards the good and bad they do. Such that what one sees as human traits, behaviour, and beliefs shouldn't mark them out as 'other', unless they can be described as such by some exceptional example of this - as when someone murders, or does anything like this. But even then they are still human - just being or behaving in an extreme example of our general behaviour.
Yes, I'm well aware of our natural tendency to such, but this is something that will likely become less important in the future, and things like the internet and other such communications will probably assist in our not becoming so clannish as we used to be. It has to be so if we want to eliminate wars and conflict for the future, but it is not something to be achieved overnight - and religions are not aiding this I would suggest.
I think Paul Bloom's book Against Empathy suggested such.
To be honest, I don't know how one could do so, unless perhaps one had a survey as to a range of topics and apportion any answers as to whether religion played a role in such or not. And quite difficult to do regarding the past.
As I mentioned, perhaps religions were inevitable such that we were just destined for what we had in history anyway, and perhaps it could have been worse, given that our knowledge would likely have taken the same course and not just suddenly leapt forward so that we all became enlightened overnight. I just don't know what could have replaced religions. Still doesn't affect the overall good or bad religions might have done though.
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Oops! the ^ above ^ should be Luke 21:11 instead of verse 22.
Yes, game changer as positive/negative : Atomic Energy (good) Atomic Bomb (bad)
Abuse of Power / Ultimate Power
Before Pres. Johnson was president, in regard to the space race controlling Earth, said whoever has the Ultimate Position has the Ultimate Power.
In Scripture, the God of the Bible has both the Ultimate Position and the Ultimate Power.
Because man can't direct his step, is why I find God will have Jesus step in.
Step in to take the action described at Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-15
While on Earth what Jesus did was a game changer for the positive.
What Jesus will do from the heavens is also a game changer for the positive - Revelation 22:2 - healing.
There will be ' healing ' for earth's nations. No one will say, " I am sick...." - Isaiah 33:24; Isaiah 35th chapter.
Segev Moran
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Yet in reality that is not how it really works.
How can God have a position?
Why Jesus and not John Doe?
There are many ideas before and after the idea of Jesus that made far more drastic changes.
I Don't think we speak of the same game changer concept
And how do you know what he will do?
Yet in reality that is not how it really works.
How can God have a position?
Why Jesus and not John Doe?
There are many ideas before and after the idea of Jesus that made far more drastic changes.
I Don't think we speak of the same game changer concept
And how do you know what he will do?
Like fallen sinner Adam, so would be any John Doe.
To be a corresponding ransom price for what Adam did only a sinless person could balance the Scales of Justice for us.
The Bible writers let us know what Jesus will do. We can read about what Jesus will do at Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-15
In the old Hebrew Scriptures we can read about God's backing for the ancient nation of ancient Israel.
However, starting with 1st-century Christianity we find Christians were politically neutral.
They did Not even get involved in the issues of the day between the Jews and Romans.
In other words, Christian armor, so to speak, is 'spiritual armor' as described at Ephesians chapter 6.
Christian weapons I find are Not carnal weapons according to 2 Corinthians 10:4.
firedragon
Veteran Member
When people say things like all wars in history are motivated by some religion or any religion, Its ill informed.
Segev Moran
Well-Known Member
Why do you say "fallen"?
Also, it seems you think Adam and Eve's choice was not inevitable.
And Jesus was sinless?
Also, Wasn't Jesus Jewish? Only it seems every time his students committed a "sin" (which, btw, is not a term used in Jewish beliefs), he claimed its okey because he is above the rulings of his own teachers.
I can also write to you what My son will do in 50 years. It doesn't mean he will do it
The Jewish belief (that is accepted by Jesus based on the new testament) claims the only way to know if a prophet is real, is when his prophecies are fulfilled.
Yes, when prophecies are fufilled, and in Scripture Jesus did fulfill what was written about the Messiah.Why do you say "fallen"?
Also, it seems you think Adam and Eve's choice was not inevitable.
And Jesus was sinless?
Also, Wasn't Jesus Jewish? Only it seems every time his students committed a "sin" (which, btw, is not a term used in Jewish beliefs), he claimed its okey because he is above the rulings of his own teachers.
I can also write to you what My son will do in 50 years. It doesn't mean he will do it
The Jewish belief (that is accepted by Jesus based on the new testament) claims the only way to know if a prophet is real, is when his prophecies are fulfilled.
Under the Constitution of the Mosaic Law if a prophet said something and did Not come true he was to be put to death.
Yes, Jesus was Jewish and he was able to keep the over 600+ Mosaic-law covenant or contract.
As with all of intelligent creation ( angelic or earthly ) ALL are created to have free-will choices.
In other words, No one in heaven or on earth are forced to be made to do something.
It isn't an invention, but rather an ability. But one of the scariest abilities humans have is to be able to turn almost anything to a selfish or negative purpose.