The Gastric sleeve

Riders · Sep 15, 2021

I am having so many problems with my addiction to sweets and cravings for bread and sugar. I am reconsidering having the Gastric Sleeve done and I have an appointment at the end of October. Has anyone here had it done and if so how hard is it and what kind of effects has it had on your eating? Have you lost weight?

Fool · Sep 15, 2021

Riders said:
I am having so many problems with my addiction to sweets and cravings for bread and sugar. I am reconsidering having the Gastric Sleeve done and I have an appointment at the end of October. Has anyone here had it done and if so how hard is it and what kind of effects has it had on your eating? Have you lost weight?

i know multiple people who have had it. they had to see a psychologist to qualify. it worked for maybe a year but then they sorta fell back into their old routines. its more psychological than physiological.

there is a growing trend in obesity and diabetes that the problem is not so much to much food and not enough exercise but to much refined foods.

refined foods tend to get stored as fat vs being used for energy. thus the person tends to still be hungry because most of the food isn't meeting their energy needs but piling on the fat.

Processed foods: Health risks and what to avoid.

JustGeorge · Sep 15, 2021

My sister had it done. It helped her lose over 100 lbs, but she still has cravings and still eats junk.

The Hammer · Sep 15, 2021

My aunt had it done and lost a lot of weight recently. We will see how she does in the long term. I'm personally against it outside of severe medical necessity.

Brian2 · Sep 15, 2021

Riders said:
I am having so many problems with my addiction to sweets and cravings for bread and sugar. I am reconsidering having the Gastric Sleeve done and I have an appointment at the end of October. Has anyone here had it done and if so how hard is it and what kind of effects has it had on your eating? Have you lost weight?

My wife has been overweight all her life and just lost about 30 Kg (67 lbs) with the Keto diet. It's a bit fiddly at first when you are getting used to it but she said it it good in that it fills you up so you don't need so much will power.

Shadow Wolf · Sep 16, 2021

Riders said:
I am having so many problems with my addiction to sweets and cravings for bread and sugar. I am reconsidering having the Gastric Sleeve done and I have an appointment at the end of October. Has anyone here had it done and if so how hard is it and what kind of effects has it had on your eating? Have you lost weight?

You still have to adopt a healthy diet and lifestyle or any weight you lose will be put back on.
Quick fixes just don't work long term.

Shadow Wolf · Sep 16, 2021

The Hammer said:
My aunt had it done and lost a lot of weight recently. We will see how she does in the long term. I'm personally against it outside of severe medical necessity.

I've known a lot of people who have had various stomach procedures. A lot of those it is a long term failure because they won't change their lifestyles to be healthy. And if you adopt a healthy lifestyle you'll lose the weight anyways, making surgery unnecessary.

JustGeorge · Sep 16, 2021

Shadow Wolf said:
I've known a lot of people who have had various stomach procedures. A lot of those it is a long term failure because they won't change their lifestyles to be healthy. And if you adopt a healthy lifestyle you'll lose the weight anyways, making surgery unnecessary.

I agree one should change one's lifestyle for best results. However, I think overeating/binge eating qualifies as an eating disorder, and one doesn't always have full capacity to handle it on their own(much as one can't reasonably tell an anorexic "just eat something" and expect the disorder to stop.)

@Riders , if you haven't already, you may want to seek medical advice regarding the way you eat, and whether or not you do have an eating disorder. You can get the bypass, but the eating disorder won't go away if that is the case.

Shadow Wolf · Sep 16, 2021

JustGeorge said:
I agree one should change one's lifestyle for best results. However, I think overeating/binge eating qualifies as an eating disorder, and one doesn't always have full capacity to handle it on their own(much as one can't reasonably tell an anorexic "just eat something" and expect the disorder to stop.)

True. And something like that, surgery or no, needs help getting through and coping. A surgery without is wasted time and suffering the recovery in vein.

Riders · Sep 16, 2021

I am going to start a low carb diet Monday and see if I can't stay on it on my own. We will see ow it goes.

Daemon Sophic · Sep 16, 2021

Riders said:
I am going to start a low carb diet Monday and see if I can't stay on it on my own. We will see ow it goes.

Good luck, but please keep in mind that it is very difficult to continue a diet on your own.
Finding a group, or at least one other to discuss, plan, and make meals with, is a much better (more likely for you to stick to) way.

In fact we shouldn’t be looking for diets but rather an entire lifestyle change, that you will continue with for the rest of your days.
@Fool above was correct. Many (thousands of) studies demonstrate it is the refined foods in our modern lives that have lead to the pandemic of obesity we have seen in the last 40 years. Whole-food plant-based (WFPB) eating is your best bet in the long run. And again it’s not a diet, it is a new “way of life”.

Brian2 · Sep 16, 2021

Riders said:
I am going to start a low carb diet Monday and see if I can't stay on it on my own. We will see ow it goes.

Low carb and sugar and replace with proteins (nuts, eggs, meat) even most fruits are out with Keto and starchy vegies (potato, carrots). That is a basic gist but there is more to it and the amounts to be eaten are controlled, making it hard at the start till you get used to it, then it becomes easy.

Riders · Sep 16, 2021

Brian2 said:
Low carb and sugar and replace with proteins (nuts, eggs, meat) even most fruits are out with Keto and starchy vegies (potato, carrots). That is a basic gist but there is more to it and the amounts to be eaten are controlled, making it hard at the start till you get used to it, then it becomes easy.

I'm starting out with 1 whole wheat bread 1 fruit a day milks cheese meats eggs vegetables etc...

Brian2 · Sep 16, 2021

Riders said:
I'm starting out with 1 whole wheat bread 1 fruit a day milks cheese meats eggs vegetables etc...

Sounds good to me.

Riders · Sep 18, 2021

It''s kind of a merry-go-round. If I can not stay on the low carb diet what's the point in getting the operation? If I can stay on the diet then why get the operation if I don't need it?

I am not doing it if I can't stay on one I'll say that now.

JustGeorge · Sep 18, 2021

Riders said:
It''s kind of a merry-go-round. If I can not stay on the low carb diet what's the point in getting the operation? If I can stay on the diet then why get the operation if I don't need it?

I am not doing it if I can't stay on one I'll say that now.

Good call. Though, you should probably do something if you find you can't stay on a diet. Have you talked to a doctor who understands?

Brian2 · Sep 19, 2021

Riders said:
It''s kind of a merry-go-round. If I can not stay on the low carb diet what's the point in getting the operation? If I can stay on the diet then why get the operation if I don't need it?

I am not doing it if I can't stay on one I'll say that now.

That's a good way to look at it.
My wife at one point had a lot of fat removed from her stomach but the stomach grew back eventually.
There is something advertised in Australia that sounds good. I think it concentrates on normalising someone's eating habits into something that they can do for the rest of their life. Here is a link if you are interested.

https://www.noom.com/programs/healt...umEcVLt0D3rpCQBVITXBwxX1DbuiTQaAjVHEALw_wcB#/

Riders · Sep 24, 2021

I woke up yesterday with a bad sore throat. After being on low carb for 3 days I fell off the wagon. The diet they put you on for the operation is stricter than the diet I was on. Can't drink anything but water; You have to eat tiny small meals the size of a half cup, and you have to take a bunch of vitamins because you can't have enough iron. It's a hard diet and I don't think I'm ready to go to that extreme.

I bought cokes yesterday but plan on being on my food plan this week. I just have to quit binging.

pearl · Sep 24, 2021

Fool said:
refined foods tend to get stored as fat vs being used for energy. thus the person tends to still be hungry because most of the food isn't meeting their energy needs but piling on the fat.

Our daughter is a firm believer that processed food is detrimental to your health. 90% of her diet is from their garden, her husband clams and fishes.

Brian2 · Sep 24, 2021

Riders said:
I woke up yesterday with a bad sore throat. After being on low carb for 3 days I fell off the wagon. The diet they put you on for the operation is stricter than the diet I was on. Can't drink anything but water; You have to eat tiny small meals the size of a half cup, and you have to take a bunch of vitamins because you can't have enough iron. It's a hard diet and I don't think I'm ready to go to that extreme.

I bought cokes yesterday but plan on being on my food plan this week. I just have to quit binging.

You certainly can feel low if you are used to hits of sugar. It takes a while for the body to adjust to more slow release energy foods and change the way it absorbs the energy, and there is the psychological factor also depending on the reasons you binge.

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