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Two Preachers in Indonesia Charged with Blasphemy

Ben Dhyan

Ben Dhyan

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Brian2 said:
I know there is some fanaticism in Indonesia but yes as you say it is probably not that much and on the streets people will be people.
But of course with laws like that some people will take advantage if the dislike someone else or what that person said.
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Yes, everything said can be parsed by troublemakers with the intent to make mischief.
 
firedragon

firedragon

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danieldemol said:
'Muslim and Christian Preachers Face Prison Under Abusive Law

Indonesian National Police have separately arrested and detained two clergymen on blasphemy charges.

On August 25 Muhammad Kece, a Christian preacher, was arrested at his friend’s house in Bali for alleged blasphemy against Islam. Among other allegations, the authorities charged him with changing the word “Allah” in the Islamic oath to “Jesus.” He has been detained in a Jakarta detention center.

A day later, Yahya Waloni, a Muslim imam, was arrested at his house in Jakarta after allegedly saying in a sermon that the Bible was fake. Waloni is being held in a hospital in Jakarta.'

Source: https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/09/09/two-preachers-indonesia-charged-blasphemy

Can you imagine the amount of scholarship that would be lost in the west if we had that sort of attitude towards blasphemy?

In my opinion.
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Honestly, I think this blasphemy laws and arrests are absolutely unfounded and absurd. Childish. But most of these people who do this kind of blasphemy things in specific countries are not really scholarly. Yet, I dont know anything about these specific cases, so I will leave this with the bottomline, unless these people are creating some kind of murderous cult or are found to be breaking law and order in an adverse way, these kind of arrests are only making the public primitive. When I say primitive I mean bigoted, and hateful. Maybe I should not say "primitive" because some primitive people are more open to ideas.

This is my personal opinion.
 
YoursTrue

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
danieldemol said:
'Muslim and Christian Preachers Face Prison Under Abusive Law

Indonesian National Police have separately arrested and detained two clergymen on blasphemy charges.

On August 25 Muhammad Kece, a Christian preacher, was arrested at his friend’s house in Bali for alleged blasphemy against Islam. Among other allegations, the authorities charged him with changing the word “Allah” in the Islamic oath to “Jesus.” He has been detained in a Jakarta detention center.

A day later, Yahya Waloni, a Muslim imam, was arrested at his house in Jakarta after allegedly saying in a sermon that the Bible was fake. Waloni is being held in a hospital in Jakarta.'

Source: https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/09/09/two-preachers-indonesia-charged-blasphemy

Can you imagine the amount of scholarship that would be lost in the west if we had that sort of attitude towards blasphemy?

In my opinion.
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That is why, in my somewhat humble opinion, the prophecies in the book of Revelation will come to a fitting conclusion. The nations got really, really angry. By collusion. We shall see.
 
YoursTrue

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
danieldemol said:
They could be seen not to take sides by simply not arresting anyone for blasphemy.

ETA They should be arresting those who feel the need to be violent at the slightest feeling of offence, they are the real criminals who need to be made an example of.

In my opinion.
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Here in the U.S. violence is often not because of hatred of a religious sect. It is simply a way of life now it seems, where people carry guns to parties, random violence, it's the way of life. While I agree that killing someone because of his view or perhaps peaceful stand is awful, I also believe that there will be an end to such horrible things one day. Because that is what the Bible says. And I am looking forward to the end of violence and hatred.
 
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