tas8831
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... and your deity does nothing about it.
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How does sin create a virus?
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tas8831
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You can count yourself among the multitudes that do not understand what is meant by the term "law" in science.
Wildswanderer
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Actually he does quite a lot about it. We would be extinct by now if he didn't intervene.
Wildswanderer
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Another non answer.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Such as? How many kids does he save from cancer every year?
Another empty assertion.
Wildswanderer
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He doesn't give out numbers. But it must be millions at least.
Wandering Monk
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How many lost limbs has God regrown for the disabled? None? Well then, it must be for a lack of faith on the suffers part, eh? Blame the victim? How about coming around and saying either 'God doesn't exist, he doesn't care, or he is incapable of healing.'
Brian2
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Since I'm not saying that there is a spiritual connection between the virus and sin, that is not my argument.
Those who believe that do so by faith.
Some people do however think that not being able to demonstrate something scientifically shows that it is not the case. This however is usually about spiritual things, and they are happy to believe other things that science cannot demonstrate because these other things do not involve any spiritual explanation.
SkepticThinker
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Wildswanderer
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Everyone dies. It's just a question of when.And he allows millions of others to die.
SkepticThinker
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That's not what we're talking about though, as you well know.
Wildswanderer
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Well it is, though. God isn't obligated to save everyone from sickness or death, but that doesn't mean he's absent from human affairs.
I prayed at Mom's bedside... and yes, she still died. But God was present the whole time.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Wow, it's like God operates at the same rate as random chance! Some kids die from cancer, others live.
Weird how God never gives amputees their limbs back or anything though, isn't it? He only seems to save peoples' lives or help people at the same rate as chance does.
Funny thing, that.
Geez it almost sounds like you need to back up your claim with some sort of evidence or something ...
ecco
Veteran Member
Sickness and death can be lessened, but you are against the things that can do that. Why?
Sin? That's a religious concept. Go tell your God that he should've cut Adam and Eve some slack.
Are you sad? Why? Don't you believe you are going to spend eternity in heaven? That should make you giddy with happiness.
ecco
Veteran Member
Considering the conversation was about children with cancer, that is a very callous comment.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
No, I'm not.
I think he did. He could have just taken them out.
I'm sometimes sad about the problems I and others have here. It's part of being human. Eternity will be spent on this Earth, ultimately, once it's remade. I look forward to it being a place with no sin, sickness or sadness.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Only if you think death is the end for them. Why is honestly callous?
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Because you're basically just saying, "Welp, everybody dies, even kids, so get over it. Nothing we can do about it."
If I think death is the end for them, then their life on earth is precious and worth trying to improve and save. I guess in your view, and your God's view (according to you), it's not? I mean, this God only saves kids' lives at the rate of chance, so ... ?
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
I didn't say to get over it. But it's a fact we tend to try and ignore. Everyone is dying.
Of course we try to preserve life, but it's not always possible.
Every good parent worries about the possibility of thier child dying. It's our worst nightmare. I know, I've talked to and been with parents that went through it.
If this life is all there is, those parents are without hope of ever seeing thier child again.
To pretend we can stop death is absurd. We are all going there and all we can do is be prepared to meet our Maker when the time comes
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
Well, as I said, that's the impression I walked away with. Apparently that other poster did as well.
Apparently not for a god that you claim will save children, either.
Then why the cavalier attitude about it on this thread?
I don't recall anyone saying we can "stop death," nor is that the point under discussion. But you're really good at moving those goal posts, I suppose.