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Glorifying God

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
the lack of love is all sin.

because love covers all sin

proverbs 10:12
I'm not sure exactly what that means. IMO, pride is the root of all sin.
Pride is based on excessive self-love. We sin because we love ourselves more than God, so in that sense it's about lack of love.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I'm not sure exactly what that means. IMO, pride is the root of all sin.
Pride is based on excessive self-love. We sin because we love ourselves more than God, so in that sense it's about lack of love.
the lack of unconditional love results in sin. look at revelation. only the church of philadelphia is not reproved. god is not a respecter of persons because this is the ideal of unconditional love. you cannot have a rule for self and a different for another, or a different rule for this person vs another rule for another person. this is hypocrisy.


you have broken the golden law of love one another as i have loved you


James 2:1-9
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Because there are times when it is NOT clear what the Bible means, and it HAS to be interpreted. God provided for this in Deuteronomy 17:8-13, when He gave the levites and judges the authority to interpret such difficult cases. If God thought human interpretation is necessary, why would we say otherwise?

Sorry, I don't think that is the same matter. Deuteronomy 17:8-13 is speaking of judging someone. And in that case, it must be looked, what is the situation (evidence for the crime...) and what is the correct solution in that specific situation. I don't think it changes in any way what Bible tells.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
…Are you saying that if they disagree with the Bible that they're not authoritative?

No, I was just asking for some other “authoritative” text for as an example so that I could say why it is not, or why it can be authoritative.

… Excellent point. The fact that a document can be interpreted is evidence that its not clearly written.

Any document can be interpreted, if persons wants so.

In the Bible's case, its full of contradictions, errors, mythology and edits. It's a wonder anyone can make heads or tails of it.

I don’t think you can show even one that is truly a contradiction or error in the Bible. If you believe you can, please show one, the worst for the Bible.

How in the world are you getting Pangæa out of this?

It tells there was one area of dry land and one ocean.

Predicting disaster for religious transgression is prophetic? Please... what religion, myth or færie tale doesn't do this?

I don’t know any other that is also correct.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Sorry, I don't think that is the same matter. Deuteronomy 17:8-13 is speaking of judging someone. And in that case, it must be looked, what is the situation (evidence for the crime...) and what is the correct solution in that specific situation. I don't think it changes in any way what Bible tells.
All cases regard a person. So what? The judges STILL have to provide an interpretation of the law in order to rule on certain difficult cases.

I never said it changes the Law. I said it makes it possible to KEEP the law.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
No, I was just asking for some other “authoritative” text for as an example so that I could say why it is not, or why it can be authoritative.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0262511266?tag=fivebooks001-20
I don’t think you can show even one that is truly a contradiction or error in the Bible. If you believe you can, please show one, the worst for the Bible.
How about the worldwide flood, the exodus from Egypt, or the creation myths?
Donald Morgan Contradictions – Internet Infidels

It tells there was one area of dry land and one ocean.
No, it said land and sea were separated. Land and sea are seperate now, but there's no single continent.
You gave it as an example of Bible prophecy referring to Pangæa. How are you seeing Pangæa in this?
I don’t know any other that is also correct.
You don't know your own is correct, you're imposing beliefs and interpretations on vague or ambiguous passages. People of many faiths do the same thing, and claim accuracy. People claim Nostradamus was prophetic, and it's not even a religious text. People swore by the Oracle at Delphi List of oracular statements from Delphi - Wikipedia

If you don't know of any other that's correct, maybe you're not familiar with any other.
These connections you perceive are like images in the clouds.[/quote]
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
So soldiers in battle will go to Hell if they're killed not loving the enemy?
war is hell.

Hell is a state of mind separated from love. Look at how solitary confinement mentally damages those who are antisocial
 

1213

Well-Known Member

Why do you think that is authoritative?

How about the worldwide flood, the exodus from Egypt, or the creation myths?
Donald Morgan Contradictions – Internet Infidels

Can you give one point what you mean as an example?

No, it said land and sea were separated. Land and sea are seperate now, but there's no single continent.

If there would have been many areas of dry land, why would Bible say “God called the dry land Earth” and not “God called the dry lands Earth”?
 

1213

Well-Known Member
All cases regard a person. So what? The judges STILL have to provide an interpretation of the law in order to rule on certain difficult cases.

I never said it changes the Law. I said it makes it possible to KEEP the law.

If it doesn’t change what is written, then I think it is not really an interpretation of the law. For example, the law says, “don’t murder”. Is there something for judges to interpret in that, please tell what exactly? Or if you have some other part of the law that needs to be interpreted, please show one example?
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
If it doesn’t change what is written, then I think it is not really an interpretation of the law. For example, the law says, “don’t murder”. Is there something for judges to interpret in that, please tell what exactly? Or if you have some other part of the law that needs to be interpreted, please show one example?
Do you even understand how case law works?
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why do you think that is authoritative?No, it explains authoritativeness, and how to work it.



Can you give one point what you mean as an example?
Eg: There was no worldwide flood or mass exodus from Egypt.
I linked to many more examples of contradictions.

If there would have been many areas of dry land, why would Bible say “God called the dry land Earth” and not “God called the dry lands Earth”?
That doesn't even make semantic sense. "Land" is a generic term for non-water terrain. You're not even nitpicking, here. ;)
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
How can we know that?
How do you NOT know this???

Egypt kept records. There's no record of a large population of Israelite slaves or workers. There's no record of an exodus.
If half the population of the country suddenly up and left, it would have been written and talked about all over the world.

If at least six hundred thousand men ( = >20 y/o) walked into the desert, along with their wives and children, plus their livestock and possessions, this would be several million people, plus livestock.
How did they all manage to coördinate their movements, listen to Moses, and manage to feed themselves and their animals, in a desert? The column leaving Egypt must have been hundreds of miles long.

And how did these millions of people manage to live in a dry desert for 40 years without leaving any evidence that they'd ever been there -- no mummified bodies, no bones, no artifacts -- nothing?
The Number of the Exodus Jews. The population of the Exodus Hebrews

Refuting the exodus is pretty straightforward. The worldwide flood is more complicated, as there is a great deal more evidence from dozens of different disciplines that it never happened. Listing the evidences here would take a small book, and noöne would read the post.

I'd recommend Aron Ra's YouTube series, looking at the evidence from Geology, Meteorology, Archæology, Zoölogy, Anthropology, Dendrochronology, Mythology, and Paleontology.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=aaron+ra:+noah's+flood
 
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