Brian2
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God in a Christian is the Holy Spirit in whom is the Father and Son.
Psalm 46:10 is telling us to trust in God and that He is the one who in the end will be known and exalted by all people.
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Glorifying God
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God in a Christian is the Holy Spirit in whom is the Father and Son.
Psalm 46:10 is telling us to trust in God and that He is the one who in the end will be known and exalted by all people.
Brian2
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Why do you say that "the Holy spirit of self is the same".
I don't see "fruits of the Spirit" in 1Cor 6:19, but fruits of the Spirit are those things that the Spirit produces in us through the life and love that it gives us and through working in a Christian to change their mind and actions.
The part of us that is God is the Holy Spirit who is given to be united with us so that we can taste divine nature. (2Peter 1:3-4)
Of ourselves we are not God in any way. The closest thing is our spirit which comes from God and is spirit, like God is and gives us life.
Most Christians believe that God is one entity.
I believe that God is a collection of trillions of souls, each with its own voice, but all speaking the same words at the same time when God talks. This is because they have had an eternity (they are definitely older than the universe) to discuss all matters and come to the same conclusion with the same wording.
Most Christians believe that God is purely good.
I believe that there are a few souls that are not good, and disagree with the other souls.
I believe that God uses humans as a purification system for himself. That is, he puts a soul in a human, which guides the human to do good or evil, then sends the evil ones to hell (locked away, never to return to God), while the good souls return to God.
This explains why Jesus seemed to say that God was in him. By my way of thinking, God is in each of us. Furthermore, the miracles that Jesus did, to a lesser extent, are miracles that we all could do (with the power of our spirits). This would explain psychic abilities.
We know that God made Satan. Satan was said to be a perfect angel, but felt that he was better than God. We therefore know that God made an evil soul. We also know that God won't destroy Satan. Nor does God interfere with Satan's work.
Jesus came from the love of Mary (married to Joseph at the time) and God.
Does God's love include Noah's flood?
Why does a loving God allow suffering? Why can't a loving God help cancer patients who pray to him?
Could it be that God is not love?
People rejected God and His love and got what they asked for. It is silly to expect something, like protection from God, if you reject Him.
I believe God allows suffering, because people wanted to know evil. That is the reason why people were expelled to this "Matrix" to learn what it truly means. Luckily this is only a short lesson and those who are righteous, can go back to life with God.
Who has really prayed Bible God and have not been helped?
In Biblical point of view this "life" is not meant to last forever. Probably everyone dies at some point. But it is not the end, if we believe what the Bible tells. By what it says, life is with God and our goal should be on higher level.
"Therefore I tell you, don't be anxious for your life, what you will eat, nor yet for your body, what you will wear. Life is more than food, and the body is more than clothing. Consider the ravens: they don't sow, they don't reap, they have no warehouse or barn, and God feeds them. How much more valuable are you than birds! Which of you by being anxious can add a cubit to his height? If then you aren't able to do even the least things, why are you anxious about the rest? Consider the lilies, how they grow. They don't toil, neither do they spin; yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. But if this is how God clothes the grass in the field, which today exists, and tomorrow is cast into the oven, how much more will he clothe you, O you of little faith? Don't seek what you will eat or what you will drink; neither be anxious. For the nations of the world seek after all of these things, but your Father knows that you need these things. But seek God's Kingdom, and all these things will be added to you.
Luke 12:22-31
I don’t think Bible is saying all people are the temple of God. It is possible that God’s spirit doesn’t live in you.
My point is to show how it is according to the Bible. If you don’t like it, you can reject it.
It depends on what they say. Please show one example?
Why have interpretation at all? Wouldn’t it be more reasonable to try to understand the Bible as it is written, without interpretations?
For me Bible is reliable source, because it has knowledge that I don’t think people would have without God and that things go as told in the Bible. It is not tied just to one person at one point in history. Here are few examples of what I mean:
1. Bible knew that there was original single continent at the beginning:
God called the dry land Earth, and the gathering together of the waters he called Seas. God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:10
2. Bible knew that Jews will be scattered, as they were, and later gathered back as they are no being gathered back.
I will scatter you among the nations, and I will draw out the sword after you: and your land will be a desolation, and your cities shall be a waste.
Leviticus 26:33
It shall happen, when all these things are come on you, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before you, and you shall call them to mind among all the nations, where Yahweh your God has driven you, and shall return to Yahweh your God, and shall obey his voice according to all that I command you this day, you and your children, with all your heart, and with all your soul; that then Yahweh your God will turn your captivity, and have compassion on you, and will return and gather you from all the peoples, where Yahweh your God has scattered you. If any of your outcasts are in the uttermost parts of the heavens, from there will Yahweh your God gather you, and from there will he bring you back:
Deuteronomy 30:1-4
The major difference to other gods is that Bible God has a message, He tells how things will go and they will go so.
If many have them, why don’t many live by them?
In Bible “love God” means that you keep His commandments. Basically, this means, if you love your neighbor as told in the Bible, you also love God by doing so.
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. His commandments are not grievous.
1 John 5:3
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I'm not sure I understand you. 1 Cor 6:20 simply says to glorify God with your whole being. It's really just another way of saying love God with all your heart, soul and might. That doesn't mean that God is part of us.
so the spirit of god in us is love?
ah hah!!!! You have learned that the 1st commandment is the recognition of the Spirit of God is in self by loving with the "whole being" as 1 Corinthians 6:19 says and not in some other place and the second commandment is like the first regarding other as self. This is what exodus 3:14 alludes to. Christ in all. Christ the teacher, Christ the advocate
Christ is all and in all. Christ is the teacher
The spirit of love in us is the same as the spirit of Love called God
1 John 4:12
1 John 4:16
Some have not woke up yet. Some are dead in heaven but love will awaken them.
Jeremiah 23:24.
I am that I am or paramatman is atman.
Or self is other as self.
I am and there is no other.
God is self's being. One learns that the spirit of self is God's. The name of names alludes to it. The 1st commandment alludes to it.by the Spirit that created self from that Spirit. Ecclesiastes 12:7
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I'm not sure where you are getting the idea that we are God, but it's certainly not from the Bible.
Yet all I've quoted is scripture. The form is irrelevant..the self; when it awakens, enlightens, finds itself inside the Absolute. It can't exist apart from it. Otherwise it isn't Absolute
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
The Holy Spirit is love but that's not all he is. He convicts of sin also for example.
One example of what? a different scripture?
I don't see your point. Different scriptures exist. You can google them with a few keystrokes.
Are you saying that if they disagree with the Bible that they're not authoritative? That clarifies nothing. A Sikh or Muslim could make the same claim for their scripture.
Excellent point. The fact that a document can be interpreted is evidence that its not clearly written.
In the Bible's case, its full of contradictions, errors, mythology and edits. It's a wonder anyone can make heads or tails of it.
The fact that one can read it without even noticing these glaring stumbling-blocks speaks to a serious intellectual deficit.
How in the world are you getting Pangæa out of this?
Predicting disaster for religious transgression is prophetic? Please... what religion, myth or færie tale doesn't do this?
And salvation in the end? -- typical folk-tale.
Look, you can cherry pick passages from just about any book and interpret them to mean whatever you want. You can see weasels and whales in the clouds, but they signify nothing.
This is not a clear prophecy. It does not read like a paragraph from a history text.
Nobody saw Pangea or modern Israel in the scriptures until they became scientific or historical fact. Had they been clear prophecy they'd have been anticipated, and believed a thousand years ago.
And other religions make the same claim. Do you not know this?
Because we have the brains of impulsive savanna apes.
Curious that the most xenophobic, nationalistic, and militaristic among us are the most religious.
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IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
WEll, maybe it went right past me, but I didn't notice any scripture being quoted by you that said that we are God. It is simply not taught in the Bible.
If you want to believe that you are God, my suggestion is to check out Hinduism. NOT one of the Abrahamic faiths.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Because there are times when it is NOT clear what the Bible means, and it HAS to be interpreted. God provided for this in Deuteronomy 17:8-13, when He gave the levites and judges the authority to interpret such difficult cases. If God thought human interpretation is necessary, why would we say otherwise?