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Isn`t it good.

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Isn't it good that even we come from the same faith background in religions or spiritual practice, that we can understand its teaching a little differently?

Isn't it good that people from different religious/spiritual backgrounds can have good discussions about how we see the truth?

There is no need for "I am better than you" or "Your belief is wrong" Is it?

Love arise when we can see the good in each other and let the less good be.

:hugehug:
 

AlexanderG

Active Member
Yep! I really like this forum and talking to people from all different walks of life. I know I can get pretty blunt sometimes, but I think that's a byproduct of expressing myself clearly. :D

Hugs all around!
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Isn't it good that even we come from the same faith background in religions or spiritual practice, that we can understand its teaching a little differently?

Isn't it good that people from different religious/spiritual backgrounds can have good discussions about how we see the truth?

There is no need for "I am better than you" or "Your belief is wrong" Is it?

Love arise when we can see the good in each other and let the less good be.

:hugehug:
What a way to shut down all debates! :) I agree with your sentiments.
 

Alienistic

Anti-conformity
I’d personally prefer the strengthening of others, becoming less offended and sensitive to the harsher words of others. Laugh at ourselves and each other with no offense taken. But I see the rules and where the world is headed, we must respect and appreciate nonsense, insensitivities in the name of kindness and love. Be passive and complacent and not say anything regarding the nonsense. The molding of a weaker and sensitive world, censored world, enabling the nonsense.

To me, there is little good about someone’s mind and/or body being under control, taking advantage of the gullible, naive, more ignorant, women being submissive and controlled, children also, all other nonsense that these beliefs we very well know are being put into action. And it is not a “choice or ones own beliefs” in most instances.
 

DNB

Christian
Isn't it good that even we come from the same faith background in religions or spiritual practice, that we can understand its teaching a little differently?

Isn't it good that people from different religious/spiritual backgrounds can have good discussions about how we see the truth?

There is no need for "I am better than you" or "Your belief is wrong" Is it?

Love arise when we can see the good in each other and let the less good be.

:hugehug:
As long as people are not either too complacent or accepting of other's opinions just for the sake of avoiding confrontation.
There is only one truth, and all falsehood is consequential, invariably. Therefore, there is a time for overt rejection and denunciation. How is a theist supposed to speak to a luciferian or satanist - definitely not overly-accepting, or without alarm and disapproval.
Hopefully most of us are here in order to get enlightened, and not due to a social or strictly academic motivation, necessarily. Life is real, and so is sin and death, we need to take such discussions extremely seriously.
Remain congenial, but also austere.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
As long as people are not either too complacent or accepting of other's opinions just for the sake of avoiding confrontation.
There is only one truth, and all falsehood is consequential, invariably. Therefore, there is a time for overt rejection and denunciation. How is a theist supposed to speak to a luciferian or satanist - definitely not overly-accepting, or without alarm and disapproval.
Hopefully most of us are here in order to get enlightened, and not due to a social or strictly academic motivation, necessarily. Life is real, and so is sin and death, we need to take such discussions extremely seriously.
Remain congenial, but also austere.
Thank you for your reply :)

Why would it be a problem to speak with Luciferians or Satanists? If they believe that way and do not harm anyone why would I push them away?
 

DNB

Christian
Thank you for your reply :)

Why would it be a problem to speak with Luciferians or Satanists? If they believe that way and do not harm anyone why would I push them away?
Not push them away, but a certain tone should be used that may be different as to how you engage with someone else.
But, I was clear, I did say a Theist, versus a satanist (arch enemies). There's a point where complacency or being un-opiniated is not the best tactic or policy. Warnings should be issued under certain circumstances.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Not push them away, but a certain tone should be used that may be different as to how you engage with someone else.
But, I was clear, I did say a Theist, versus a satanist (arch enemies). There's a point where complacency or being un-opiniated is not the best tactic or policy. Warnings should be issued under certain circumstances.
I believe I am strong enough in my faith and belief in Allah to withstand Satanists attempt on drawing me away from Allah :) And actually, sometimes a discussion between a theist and ultra atheists can be interesting.
 

DNB

Christian
I believe I am strong enough in my faith and belief in Allah to withstand Satanists attempt on drawing me away from Allah :) And actually, sometimes a discussion between a theist and ultra atheists can be interesting.
I'm not referring to you being influenced, I'm asserting that a rebuke is in order. Don't walk away, untainted or not, without imparting a warning. Again, I'm not referring to atheists, necessarily, ..but there does come a point that their views are as subversive and require firm correction.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I'm not referring to you being influenced, I'm asserting that a rebuke is in order. Don't walk away, untainted or not, without imparting a warning. Again, I'm not referring to atheists, necessarily, ..but there does come a point that their views are as subversive and require firm correction.
So I should put my belief on them, and say, my belief is correct, yours is wrong?

That is not something I would say or do :)
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
The you are not fully convicted of your position.
The belief i have in sufism and its teaching is a personal belif, not something I push onto others. But I gladly share if people ask
For me sufism is the right path, that doesn't mean it is for others, that is up to them to decide
 

DNB

Christian
The belief i have in sufism and its teaching is a personal belif, not something I push onto others. But I gladly share if people ask
For me sufism is the right path, that doesn't mean it is for others, that is up to them to decide
Sorry, it is the right path, just for you, or for others too?
I'm a Christian, I believe that this Faith is the only acceptable way to receive God's approbation, and that no one is exempt from this ordinance.
Therefore, any other sentiment other than Jesus is Lord and Saviour, is in defiance to God and is eternally consequential.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Sorry, it is the right path, just for you, or for others too?
I'm a Christian, I believe that this Faith is the only acceptable way to receive God's approbation, and that no one is exempt from this ordinance.
Therefore, any other sentiment other than Jesus is Lord and Saviour, is in defiance to God and is eternally consequential.
That is something you are free to believe:) I have nothing against other beliefs. So if sufism isnt 5he right path for some people, that is of course nothing wrong about their choice of finding truth elsewhere
 

DNB

Christian
That is something you are free to believe:) I have nothing against other beliefs. So if sufism isnt 5he right path for some people, that is of course nothing wrong about their choice of finding truth elsewhere
So, again, you feel that there are many truths ('they can find truth elsewhere'), or that you're not concerned if they don't find it?
Will they suffer consequences for not accepting Sufism? Is Sufism the only truth?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
So, again, you feel that there are many truths ('they can find truth elsewhere'), or that you're not concerned if they don't find it?
Will they suffer consequences for not accepting Sufism? Is Sufism the only truth?
I wish for everyone to find the truth they looking for, I can not tell them that Sufism is the only answer. Sufism is an inward (esoteric) path and that may not be what everyone seeking.
There are many roads to God so to speak, but who am I to tell others what is right for them?

It means I accept people for who they are, not that they have to be like me.
 

DNB

Christian
I wish for everyone to find the truth they looking for, I can not tell them that Sufism is the only answer. Sufism is an inward (esoteric) path and that may not be what everyone seeking.
There are many roads to God so to speak, but who am I to tell others what is right for them?

It means I accept people for who they are, not that they have to be like me.
Ok, so, for you, there are many paths to God.
...then, allow me to tell you that you are WRONG! God is not divided, indifferent, complacent or confused. If Islam is correct, then neither Judaism nor Christianity can be correct - either Mohammed is a prophet, or he is not. Either Christ died for our sins, or he didn't. Either the Jews Messiah is yet to come, or he is not. All cannot be true, or God is confused, and He didn't seat His first-born of creation at His left-hand side.
You mock God when you say that all roads lead to him. Either good works please Him, or He prefers Faith and mercy? Either blood sacrifices gain His atonement, or He has mandated jihads? etc....All cannot be true.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Ok, so, for you, there are many paths to God.
...then, allow me to tell you that you are WRONG! God is not divided, indifferent, complacent or confused. If Islam is correct, then neither Judaism nor Christianity can be correct - either Mohammed is a prophet, or he is not. Either Christ died for our sins, or he didn't. Either the Jews Messiah is yet to come, or he is not. All cannot be true, or God is confused, and He didn't seat His first-born of creation at His left-hand side.
You mock God when you say that all roads lead to him. Either good works please Him, or He prefers Faith and mercy? Either blood sacrifices gain His atonement, or He has mandated jihads? etc....All cannot be true.
Its ok you feel I am wrong, that is your view and understanding.
I have no reason to tell you "you are wrong"
 
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