That's freedom?
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Texas Law Banning Abortion After About Six Weeks Takes Effect
- Thread starter Debater Slayer
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That's freedom?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I'm not sure blaming vaginas for that is quite putting the blame where it resides. He needs to look in the mirror if he wants to see what killed his career.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Brilliant!
We Never Know
No Slack
Maybe trying to make the site crash.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Yep. The ability and freedom to pack up and go live in a state that fits your political views if one desires.
It's even sneaker & more insidiously evil than you
make it out to be....
The law enables anyone...anyone at all, including people
with no relationship to the circumstances of the abortion
to sue for damages & attorney fees. And they can sue
anyone who assisted in any way, eg, driving the gal to
the clinic, lending the gal money for the abortion, etc.
(Federal law doesn't allow this, but states can.)
This makes everything tort rather than criminal law,
so the bar of winning a judgment is set far lower, a
mere preponderance of evidence (50% rather than
beyond reasonable doubt.)
AFAIK, it also allows a devious SLAPP approach with
unlimited plaintiffs pursuing all parties possibly involved
in any way with the abortion. It could even apply to an
out of state abortion.
For dedicated anti-choicers, they can bankrupt anyone
they set their sights on. Prevailing defendants won't
be awarded attorney's fees.
Conservatives....they're big on the right to sue anyone
for anything without evidence, & with no sanctions for
meritless suits.....they've now joined the liberals in this.
Caution:
Some opinions above.
Feel free to fact check.
I'm intoxicated on ice cream.
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We Never Know
No Slack
Technically yes.
They are free to stay or free to leave. Not forced either way
Same as get the vaccine or get another job is a choice. It may not be the choice people like but its a choice.
We differ on that then.
Meh...I don't see it.
If Texas suddenly decided to remove the right to vote from women, would you say they're 'technically free since they can leave if they don't like it'?
Education?
Or just body autonomy?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I dunno about you, but I'm not keen on living in a uniform, regimented, and centralized nation where every state must answer to just one set of rules and regulations.
Sounds too much like Communist China.
Friend of Mara
Active Member
link plz
We Never Know
No Slack
All I can say is they would be free to protest it and I think many male's would stand on their side.
I'm missing the post where I suggested that. I was content to just leave it at 'we differ'.
If you want to go further, let me know, and I'll extrapolate my thoughts.
Only reason I didn't is that I doubt we will reach a common understanding on this.
Somewhat.
It's the advantage of when laws go wrong,
at least it's not always on a national level.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
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So when are you going to stop whining about NY and move out?
Sure. They have the freedom to protest. That's important.
Is that like saying 'The advantage of only having a half glass of water is that the top half of the glass remains dry?'
A flood that only comes up halfway the levee
is better than one going over the edge.