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An irrefutable proof that Jesus is God

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rational experiences

Veteran Member
Status human babies born by sex just a human and a baby.

The inventor of human science practice a human man adult a father.

Gives the baby it's name.

Galileo named.

Now did the baby know he would be lying and put in gaol as a human science criminal?

No.

Galileo. Lie gaol.

Man gave the named status by words. Inherited his own causes.

Was part of the religious teachings itself.

Science an evil practice invented by humans removes you out of the book of life by self evidence.

As you were the coder encoding a science code by machines artificially yourselves.

God natural can be artificially changed by machine forced changed forces not natural in nature.

Controlled by man our destroyer.
 
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Alex22

Member
A quote from a book isn't good enough, I suspect Revealtions was written by a mad old man on mushrooms and so do others.
 
dybmh

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
If Jesus is God and God is omnipotent, wouldn't Jesus have known how much bickering and arguing would result from this trinity/non-trinity issue? Knowing about this future issue, why didn't Jesus make it clearer whether or not he was God?

It seems more likely to me that Jesus isn't God, isn't all knowing, and therefore can't be blamed for all the trouble this trinity issue has caused.
 
InChrist

InChrist

Free4ever
Hockeycowboy said:
Oh yeah, it’s refutable!

Big-time refutable.

IMO, you are taking away from Yahweh (YHWH), His uniqueness & what rightfully belongs to Him, according to Exodus 20:1-4.

And Jesus can’t be YHWH, because then he was praying to himself in John 17, Matthew 26:39, etc.
If Jesus was YHWH, he wouldn’t have said, “Not as I will, but as You will.”

Christendom has been influenced and twisted the truth since it’s inception!
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The Son was praying to His Father, not to Himself and there is nothing contradictory or which diminishes the deity of Christ, the Son to desire to fulfill His Father’s will. After all, the scriptures indicate they are One and have the same purpose, plan and will for the redemption of humanity.
 
InChrist

InChrist

Free4ever
dybmh said:
If Jesus is God and God is omnipotent, wouldn't Jesus have known how much bickering and arguing would result from this trinity/non-trinity issue? Knowing about this future issue, why didn't Jesus make it clearer whether or not he was God?

It seems more likely to me that Jesus isn't God, isn't all knowing, and therefore can't be blamed for all the trouble this trinity issue has caused.
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There’s no bickering among those who have been born again to new and eternal life in Christ. They know Jesus personally and know exactly Who He is.
The ones who fight so hard against the deity of Christ... well, they need to be saved, born again and then they will receive spiritual understanding.
 
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rational experiences

Veteran Member
If man's scientific prophecy says in the future Christians will be gone then he knew irradiation satanic fallout would return and human life would keep being sacrificed.

As life is Christ. CH gases then water holy oxygenation teaching.

A Ch symbol Christ was the holy ox as a beast symbols. Versus destruction. Stating generation of oxygen by tree of life was its meaning.

Christ birth end of year ice the beast and human baby DNA life born in a heavens stable state. Overlooked by star that wanders. Our scientific advice. Holy science philosophy no practice.

A star that fell burning wandering was satanic.

Science caused the asteroid to activate burn fall.

Our saviour advice and warnings.

Predicted by the sciences.

Russia gets blasted 1901 era...life changes again. Language and behaviour changes again.

Once a mutual language of polite and even melodic exchanges had been expressed. Humans used manners.

Humans sought nuclear science again brain irradiated the biggest mistake of modern man.

We knew already NOT to practice any atmospheric science.
 
Hockeycowboy

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
InChrist said:
The Son was praying to His Father, not to Himself and there is nothing contradictory or which diminishes the deity of Christ, the Son to desire to fulfill His Father’s will. After all, the scriptures indicate they are One and have the same purpose, plan and will for the redemption of humanity.
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They are one, the same as he and his disciples are one.(John 17:11; John 17:20-22) Be careful not to break the first Commandment by implying something else.

Take care, my cousin.
 
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RestlessSoul

RestlessSoul

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Alex22 said:
A quote from a book isn't good enough, I suspect Revealtions was written by a mad old man on mushrooms and so do others.
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Have you ever eaten mushrooms? I ate loads (psilocybin, liberty cap) back in the day; but I could never have written Revelation.

Just because a text defies simple understanding, is no reason to dismiss it's author as insane.
 
RestlessSoul

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
dybmh said:
If Jesus is God and God is omnipotent, wouldn't Jesus have known how much bickering and arguing would result from this trinity/non-trinity issue? Knowing about this future issue, why didn't Jesus make it clearer whether or not he was God?

It seems more likely to me that Jesus isn't God, isn't all knowing, and therefore can't be blamed for all the trouble this trinity issue has caused.
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Whatever Jesus set out to do, putting an end to bickering was not on the agenda.

Matthew 10:34
 
RestlessSoul

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Aupmanyav said:
Actually, they were quite smart, like some of the modern blurb-writers. They knew what would turn the opinion in their favor at that time. Of course, the lines do not have the same effect on every one today..
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"Quite smart" is probably an understatement. I think we can safely say that the authors of any text still being pored over, debated, interpreted and reviewed, millenia after first being written, have succeeded on multiple levels.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Jesus was never a god, he could never be. Jesus was a humble servant of God/Allah/YHVH, yes. Right?

Regards
 
RabbiO

RabbiO

הרב יונה בן זכריה
Nakosis said:
Of course they have also told me that if you gather 10 Jews together and ask them questions about Judaism you'll get 12 different opinions.
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That’s inflation. Used to be it only took 8 to get 12 opinions.
 
RabbiO

RabbiO

הרב יונה בן זכריה
Bethel said:
And you are not making them more clear., just more Obtuse.

So, another Thread is not going to offer clarity, it will just provide you with a Pulpit.
No need for that situation.
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To be clear I am not advocating for Islam nor for a particular understanding of it. I am most certainly not advocating for @Link with whose views I have very little in common. However, for someone who stated when he joined that he was here to share and learn, you’d never know it from your posts.
 
Bethel

Bethel

Member
paarsurrey said:
Isn't it a third person narrative by anonymous scripture named after John just for credulity for the credulous Pauline-Christians, please ? Right?
Kindly try another time, please. Right?

Regards
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Jesus did not die on the Cross in the first place, so Jesus had no case of god-ship, please.
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The Apostle's walked with Jesus, and they saw Him after He rose from the dead.
This isn't "3rd person".
Try to figure that out.
 
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