lukethethird
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"I believe in science, I don't believe in God"
No one believes in science, it's not effing Santa Clause.
No one believes in science, it's not effing Santa Clause.
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"I believe in science, I don't believe in God"
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I do not expect a loss from giving to charities. If I did, I would not give to that charity.The expected outcome for giving money away is LOSS.
I GAINED, as have countless others, on occasions where we followed the scriptural pattern of giving.
Let's say I get income from an unexpected source six times yearly--examples could be an IRS stimulus, a bequest, a cash gift for a birthday from a distant relative, etc.
Odds of receiving unexpected income per day = 160 days. How many times would I need to receive the precise amount to the penny I gave away, within 24 hours, to see statistical significance.
I don't know. Have you done a study? It would be good to have it be double blind. Say, compare those that give to charities in a certain way vs those that do not and compare their unexpected income from other sources?
Otherwise, all you have in an anecdote.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
Science says I theoried as humans two states to practice science.
Cold empty space and heated presence radiation.
Creation existed created in all various natural masses in the presence of those two forms.
Humans did not think creation into existing as creation. Science tells lies.
In pretence that a God had as a man thinker. Thinking creation into being as he named it. Which is a teaching the bible taught a man theist lied.
The thinker using words.
So first you realise science was given a human title lying and a liar.
Who was present living when even ING sky was set alight by science causes burnt for six days.
His DNA genesis removed and he was given the water evaporated Satan cloud image of man destroyer.
As a human.
As day light burning increased in the same attack that set the nature garden ight. Human life evicted from the garden.
Men in science caused it. Why we always said our science brother just a human was Satan.
And we are correct.
As Galileo proof name lie gaol.
Stephen Hawking man king in science life sacrificed telling science brother modern science will by machine burn us to death.
Reason man designed science.
Man told everyone to use names.
By design man by name man gets prophetic advice real.
Consciousness says I live within the immaculate.
Science machine interaction wants cold empty space first.
The contradiction earths heavens is not a space channel.
So he describes the destroyer evidence himself as man's warning to man. The time of men with their rich false history...no human should be rich as science caused the event historic.
Men to live human chosen imbalanced family life. Rich based on a huge history of human pain torment torture and suffering. To gain status a rich man.
No matter who you think you are today life speaks for itself.
Names.
Such as king...rother and child...trump..Elon and musk.
As the holy Christ symbol in the beast advice was Ox. As oxygen.
Symbols are bore by men is historic as namesake symbolic causes.
The theme teaching says a seemingly normal everyday man will own the cause.
The names of man own the time as the place involving the inherited warning of the warning.
Cannot make a status about a man using a name as men do. Yet the science condition in the presence of the men expressing the names is a relevant warning.
Science the fake God of man was never God.
Why men in science don't believe in God they only believe in man's thought science theories.
And those men were always wrong.
Cold empty space and heated presence radiation.
Creation existed created in all various natural masses in the presence of those two forms.
Humans did not think creation into existing as creation. Science tells lies.
In pretence that a God had as a man thinker. Thinking creation into being as he named it. Which is a teaching the bible taught a man theist lied.
The thinker using words.
So first you realise science was given a human title lying and a liar.
Who was present living when even ING sky was set alight by science causes burnt for six days.
His DNA genesis removed and he was given the water evaporated Satan cloud image of man destroyer.
As a human.
As day light burning increased in the same attack that set the nature garden ight. Human life evicted from the garden.
Men in science caused it. Why we always said our science brother just a human was Satan.
And we are correct.
As Galileo proof name lie gaol.
Stephen Hawking man king in science life sacrificed telling science brother modern science will by machine burn us to death.
Reason man designed science.
Man told everyone to use names.
By design man by name man gets prophetic advice real.
Consciousness says I live within the immaculate.
Science machine interaction wants cold empty space first.
The contradiction earths heavens is not a space channel.
So he describes the destroyer evidence himself as man's warning to man. The time of men with their rich false history...no human should be rich as science caused the event historic.
Men to live human chosen imbalanced family life. Rich based on a huge history of human pain torment torture and suffering. To gain status a rich man.
No matter who you think you are today life speaks for itself.
Names.
Such as king...rother and child...trump..Elon and musk.
As the holy Christ symbol in the beast advice was Ox. As oxygen.
Symbols are bore by men is historic as namesake symbolic causes.
The theme teaching says a seemingly normal everyday man will own the cause.
The names of man own the time as the place involving the inherited warning of the warning.
Cannot make a status about a man using a name as men do. Yet the science condition in the presence of the men expressing the names is a relevant warning.
Science the fake God of man was never God.
Why men in science don't believe in God they only believe in man's thought science theories.
And those men were always wrong.
wellwisher
Well-Known Member
When it comes to science, the laymen atheist do not have the skills needed to use the raw data, to prove anything in science. They depend on faith, in the experts, to digest this data and tell them what to believe.
For example, go to the National Weather Agency; NOOA, web site and look at the raw data feeds, before it is massage for the laymen, and served as a done deal. After the layman interface is created there is no guarantee even these weather predictions are correct. Many will blindly accept based on faith in science prestige. The layman is not using their full reasoning and analytical skills but mostly an emotional bridge of faith. If the weather forecast is wrong, they may not notice the conceptual problem, but accept this as the ebb and flow of science.
If you are a university trained scientist, you are often trained to be a specialist, which means you know your niche in great detail and can interpret the raw data. But you become a layman, again, if you go far too from home, toward other specialities. After a certain point, even you will depend on others to tell you what is real. You accept these conclusions based on faith in other experts.
Experts know lots of detailed things and within these details they often discover new anomalies in the raw data, which creates conceptual problems for existing dogma and theories of science. Astral Physics, for example, always finds new things nobody expected. But science, like religion, does not turn on a dime in terms of integrating new truth. There is a lot of bureaucratic faith mongering in science. Like a large ship trying to turn, change is slow and the obsolete remains to long, but is enforced with the fancy lab coats and lab cathedrals used similar to the churches of old.
Religion is the template for layman faith in science, in that the faithful depend on their own experience in the context and prestige of expert testimony, that is slow to change. Modern western science began in the Catholic Church; alchemists, and was performed by doctors and priests. It was about the search for truth in nature and physical creation. This change was resisted and even had to go underground because there were no experts, yet, and the raw data was always changing. Religion taught science about the faith in the inner voice of discovery, that can transcend the outer voice of the bureaucrats and self serving.
For example, go to the National Weather Agency; NOOA, web site and look at the raw data feeds, before it is massage for the laymen, and served as a done deal. After the layman interface is created there is no guarantee even these weather predictions are correct. Many will blindly accept based on faith in science prestige. The layman is not using their full reasoning and analytical skills but mostly an emotional bridge of faith. If the weather forecast is wrong, they may not notice the conceptual problem, but accept this as the ebb and flow of science.
If you are a university trained scientist, you are often trained to be a specialist, which means you know your niche in great detail and can interpret the raw data. But you become a layman, again, if you go far too from home, toward other specialities. After a certain point, even you will depend on others to tell you what is real. You accept these conclusions based on faith in other experts.
Experts know lots of detailed things and within these details they often discover new anomalies in the raw data, which creates conceptual problems for existing dogma and theories of science. Astral Physics, for example, always finds new things nobody expected. But science, like religion, does not turn on a dime in terms of integrating new truth. There is a lot of bureaucratic faith mongering in science. Like a large ship trying to turn, change is slow and the obsolete remains to long, but is enforced with the fancy lab coats and lab cathedrals used similar to the churches of old.
Religion is the template for layman faith in science, in that the faithful depend on their own experience in the context and prestige of expert testimony, that is slow to change. Modern western science began in the Catholic Church; alchemists, and was performed by doctors and priests. It was about the search for truth in nature and physical creation. This change was resisted and even had to go underground because there were no experts, yet, and the raw data was always changing. Religion taught science about the faith in the inner voice of discovery, that can transcend the outer voice of the bureaucrats and self serving.
ecco
Veteran Member
I'm surprised that you would use this old worn-out tactic. I'm quite sure you know there are two completely different definitions for the word "faith".
faith
- 1.
complete trust or confidence in someone or something. Confidence, conviction - 2.
strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
Yet, like many theists before you, you try to make an argument by conflating the two different definitions.
Theists believe their holy scriptures. No matter if they are Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus or whatever. There are no objective reasons for these beliefs. They are based on faith:
2. 2.
strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
The layman has faith (confidence) in the findings of scientists highly trained in their specialty. This includes your weathermen, biologists, climatologists, cardiac surgeons, dentists, neurologists, etc.strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
I don't go to my primary care physician based on spiritual apprehension. I go to him based on the faith (confidence) I have in his documented training.
Since you know the difference between the two definitions of faith why do you intentionally conflate them? What is your purpose?
ETA: I'm not really surprised. I'm used to it.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
Science is a chosen applied human practice.
Evolution status no scientist no maths or human expressive reasons either. In the past when it was hotter.
Science said space is zero with nothing in it. A thin flat plane. Cannot measure how much mass is gone.
Science said formed form owns no space hence it was there from the beginning.
Science said change heat burning owned zero presence as pre existing form was removed.
Science says a suns body uses its body to burn as fuel and is getting less and smaller.
Science says so space itself the plane is increasing.
Science said zero owned no numbers.
Science said I will apply numbers to mass to remove it back to a zero yet leave minus.
As I am not the all consuming sun.
About science and liars.
Evolution status no scientist no maths or human expressive reasons either. In the past when it was hotter.
Science said space is zero with nothing in it. A thin flat plane. Cannot measure how much mass is gone.
Science said formed form owns no space hence it was there from the beginning.
Science said change heat burning owned zero presence as pre existing form was removed.
Science says a suns body uses its body to burn as fuel and is getting less and smaller.
Science says so space itself the plane is increasing.
Science said zero owned no numbers.
Science said I will apply numbers to mass to remove it back to a zero yet leave minus.
As I am not the all consuming sun.
About science and liars.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
"I believe in science, I don't believe in God"
Did science ever say to believe in it, please? Right?
I envision that one is doing a superficial thing, please. Right?
Did Science ever say to not believe in G-d, please? Right?
If one will reflect one will realize to correct and reform oneself, please. Right?
Regards
Did science ever say to believe in it, please? Right?
I envision that one is doing a superficial thing, please. Right?
Did Science ever say to not believe in G-d, please? Right?
If one will reflect one will realize to correct and reform oneself, please. Right?
Regards
rational experiences
Veteran Member
Phi crop circles part of false modern day theories in science only seen as crops growing on ground allow it.
No Crop growing no witness of circles either.
Stone etched circles means a layer of natural mass is gone.
Which is like mining digging up a mass product. So did science build it. Machine designed on ground patterns.
More than likely by conscious thesis first.... as copying is what science says design means.
I observe. I compare my thoughts my wants in a thesis.
That moment his want is nothing to do with natural.
So designer human builds artificial by self human presence. Motivated want. Conditions. Nothing about God at all.
The advice is human controlled. All about humans enabled to do whatever they want.
Natural the laws however contradicts I want. What we learnt before no man is God when science destroyed our life.
Yet everyday any body he looks at is his claim I will find the base source. So has looked at as many variable bodies as he could claiming I have to find it.
Yet says it about any one form he chooses to study. The same want.
As he says himself God is within everything.
So humans have to ask the brother science theists what are you talking about as it is not rational.
As I am not your science product beginnings where human science theorising begins. To build a machine first. His God the machine. Then perform a reaction. By artificial reasoning in machine controls.
Not God at all. He uses what he named the substance was of God is....planet earths one body mass.
Multi bodies he says God the planet as the source produces owning the one power within. Energy mass.
Why he taught as a human against science no man is God.
Very basic human advice science is the human life destroyer.
No Crop growing no witness of circles either.
Stone etched circles means a layer of natural mass is gone.
Which is like mining digging up a mass product. So did science build it. Machine designed on ground patterns.
More than likely by conscious thesis first.... as copying is what science says design means.
I observe. I compare my thoughts my wants in a thesis.
That moment his want is nothing to do with natural.
So designer human builds artificial by self human presence. Motivated want. Conditions. Nothing about God at all.
The advice is human controlled. All about humans enabled to do whatever they want.
Natural the laws however contradicts I want. What we learnt before no man is God when science destroyed our life.
Yet everyday any body he looks at is his claim I will find the base source. So has looked at as many variable bodies as he could claiming I have to find it.
Yet says it about any one form he chooses to study. The same want.
As he says himself God is within everything.
So humans have to ask the brother science theists what are you talking about as it is not rational.
As I am not your science product beginnings where human science theorising begins. To build a machine first. His God the machine. Then perform a reaction. By artificial reasoning in machine controls.
Not God at all. He uses what he named the substance was of God is....planet earths one body mass.
Multi bodies he says God the planet as the source produces owning the one power within. Energy mass.
Why he taught as a human against science no man is God.
Very basic human advice science is the human life destroyer.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
rational experiences
Veteran Member
In the past lived life recorded human memories the CHurCH was built for human healing. It was actually a medical building using applying sound therapy vibrational healing with therapy oils annointed healing aromas by frankincense myrhh burning. Incense.
Humans wore white gowns were in service to humanity as healers.
No pulpit.
No false preaching. Church For healing believers in CH Rist.
That said the building kept life safe from invading spirits. Outside of the building.
Then the next fallout star Satan irradiation occurred. After the original church practice was established just as it said.
Human Brain mind fell into its dark ages.
Where even natural healing remedies were banned in medicine and evil torture medical implemented itself.
The satanic reasoning consciousness lost to irradiation. History demon strata it was.
So we said the churches practice became evil and we learnt to hate the church. As a rational human experience. By methods used.
Science however concluded a non nuclear practice Alchemy stopped would allow atmospheric heavenly healing.
So the church implemented that advice. Preached the science practice of olden days had sacrificed life. Lucky gods acts had saved it. Science advice.
By first law holy space womb pressure cooling conditions. Year 2012 advice scientific. New life by conditions allowed healing.
Irradiation UFO effect still active life in nature still being harmed. All notified constantly. By human animal phenomena attacks.
The science psyche ....I am aware life is already bodily sacrificed. I knew it was. I taught acceptance and holy outcome 2012.
Ignored my own advice as greed was involved the occult nuclear practice. Life sacrificed increases in nuclear sciences increased causes. Science behaviour not conscious says who cares less.
Science taught use change to any one minute particle huge changes are chain reacted returned.
Reason. First law empty space cold space pressure history. Holder of any mass in a form.
Particle presence owned presence involved with huge spatial pressures.
Starts converting particle dust inside machine forced controlled by humans.
Outside in nature pressure of the space introduced by machine conversion changes as he introduces it by removing pressurized mass held inside of sealed energy.
Spatial history cosmic itself.
The scientific owned preaching change as little as possible in life as Buddhist advice knowing how evil chain reactions are as wrong chosen human mentality. As a conscious human.
Humans wore white gowns were in service to humanity as healers.
No pulpit.
No false preaching. Church For healing believers in CH Rist.
That said the building kept life safe from invading spirits. Outside of the building.
Then the next fallout star Satan irradiation occurred. After the original church practice was established just as it said.
Human Brain mind fell into its dark ages.
Where even natural healing remedies were banned in medicine and evil torture medical implemented itself.
The satanic reasoning consciousness lost to irradiation. History demon strata it was.
So we said the churches practice became evil and we learnt to hate the church. As a rational human experience. By methods used.
Science however concluded a non nuclear practice Alchemy stopped would allow atmospheric heavenly healing.
So the church implemented that advice. Preached the science practice of olden days had sacrificed life. Lucky gods acts had saved it. Science advice.
By first law holy space womb pressure cooling conditions. Year 2012 advice scientific. New life by conditions allowed healing.
Irradiation UFO effect still active life in nature still being harmed. All notified constantly. By human animal phenomena attacks.
The science psyche ....I am aware life is already bodily sacrificed. I knew it was. I taught acceptance and holy outcome 2012.
Ignored my own advice as greed was involved the occult nuclear practice. Life sacrificed increases in nuclear sciences increased causes. Science behaviour not conscious says who cares less.
Science taught use change to any one minute particle huge changes are chain reacted returned.
Reason. First law empty space cold space pressure history. Holder of any mass in a form.
Particle presence owned presence involved with huge spatial pressures.
Starts converting particle dust inside machine forced controlled by humans.
Outside in nature pressure of the space introduced by machine conversion changes as he introduces it by removing pressurized mass held inside of sealed energy.
Spatial history cosmic itself.
The scientific owned preaching change as little as possible in life as Buddhist advice knowing how evil chain reactions are as wrong chosen human mentality. As a conscious human.