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IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
What is wrong? Evil does not come from Good.
I am concerned for you and I'll explain why. The ideas you are voicing are not Eastern Orthodoxy, so I know you aren't getting them from your church. For someone to attend a church yet proclaim beliefs counter to the teachings of that church is odd. Usually when a person no longer believes what their church teaches, they leave. I makes me wonder what is going on in your head.

Again, I think you would do well to make an appointment with your priest to discuss these ideas, so that you can see whether you wish to remain Eastern Orthodox.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
"Jesus is King of Kings and Queens."

No, Kevin George Knipfing "James", playing Doug Heffernan, is king of Queens (New York).

"all runners run, but only one gets the prize."

I'm built backwards....nose runs, feet smell.

In discussing who is more advanced in Christianity, those with diplomas consider themselves more advanced. Yet, Hitler started as a Christian, and gained a lot of accolades. Perhaps his pride made him think that he was superior to the nations and people that he attacked? Superiority (not humble) can create problems.

"to be murdered while defending homeland: "there is no higher love"" One can't join the military and fight a nation that wasn't even involved in terrorism, make torture camps, then say that you are defending the homeland so you are fulfilling God's wishes. God commanded "thou shalt not kill."

We are each the most important people in our sphere of the world. Yet, there is a greater good to save humanity. We can't pollute for our own selfish needs, and ruin the world for everyone else.

In order to serve the world, there has to be fewer kings and more servants.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
I am concerned for you and I'll explain why. The ideas you are voicing are not Eastern Orthodoxy, so I know you aren't getting them from your church. For someone to attend a church yet proclaim beliefs counter to the teachings of that church is odd. Usually when a person no longer believes what their church teaches, they leave. I makes me wonder what is going on in your head.
It is very offensive to call the member on RF the heretic. What are your arguments for this strange accusation? Are you sure, that you are not lying?
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
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If you can be satisfied with who you are, who you become. That is all that matter.
Dont be great for others. Be the best man you can be for you. That is all that is needed :)

There is a highly religious former drug addict who lives nearby and preaches (informally) to the neighbors about believing in God. He says that God made him evil and he intends to continue doing evil, and he is comfortable in the knowledge that he will go to heaven because God will eventually pardon him for his many sins (just as soon as he stops sinning). He is comfortable with who he is.

Surely, one should strive to be a better man by the standards of other people?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
There is a highly religious former drug addict who lives nearby and preaches (informally) to the neighbors about believing in God. He says that God made him evil and he intends to continue doing evil, and he is comfortable in the knowledge that he will go to heaven because God will eventually pardon him for his many sins (just as soon as he stops sinning). He is comfortable with who he is.

Surely, one should strive to be a better man by the standards of other people?
I believe that seeing ones own limits and e comfortable with one self is more important pretending to be something big so others will praise their action. As others have stated, there is a consern for health issues.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
The satanists and atheists are not crazy.

Let me talk in tongues to God about that. Writhing on the floor babbling incoherently (jljlkjslfkj). Okay, you are right, God says that the atheists are not crazy.

But, according to Jim Jones (of Jonestown), and Reverend Applewhite (of the Heaven's Gate Cult), one can die to join God.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
"to be murdered while defending homeland: "there is no higher love"" One can't join the military and fight a nation that wasn't even involved in terrorism, make torture camps, then say that you are defending the homeland so you are fulfilling God's wishes. God commanded "thou shalt not kill."

We are each the most important people in our sphere of the world. Yet, there is a greater good to save humanity. We can't pollute for our own selfish needs, and ruin the world for everyone else.
We are kings and queens because we are absolutely free. We are free to do good. If something good needs to be done for the sake of humanity and Love, it will be done by the hands of any self-centered king or queen. Because God is inside the heart and mind: "the Heavenly Kingdom is inside you" (Bible, Jesus Christ). The Holy God is the Holy Spirit because the spirit is the driving motive for actions.
There are two spirits: Jesus and satan. It is because the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are One. One God. The satan is Death - the evil spirit.

 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Satan was a good angel who fell (got evil).
Satan was a good angel who fell (got evil)?
The fallen angel is no longer an angel. Hence, the satan has lost the gift of Life and Existence. Hence, the satan is the god of death and non-existence. Because satan no longer exists (in the eyes of Jesus), Evil has not come from Jesus. The "Gnostic Atheists" refer to satan, when they say "there is no god". The Nitzshe referred to dead satan, when he wrote: "god is dead". The Atheists refer to satan, when they blame god for the flood and death of sick children.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
``2=5+7=12 does not hold''.

I think you are right. We just have to subtract 5:

2 = 5 - 5 + 7 - 5

It is sort of like finding the Shroud of Turin. Some insist that it proves that it wrapped Jesus. Yet, when radioactive dated, science proved (proves) that it could not have. But, if one has an agenda (to prove that Jesus existed), one ignores science (sometimes science is deemed the foe of religion), and proceed with facts that may not be factual, but ones that prove ones assertions.

Science is not about proving what we want to prove. Science is about looking at the situation and making experiments that may or may not prove it. If disproven, scientists look for other theories. Theists think of this as wishy-washy, and a failure to have all of the right answers. But, the scientific method eventually comes up with accurate ideas about the way the universe (and all things in it) behave.

Theists often pit their limited educations against dedicated scientists who have been studying all their lives. For example, many theists insist that mankind's impact on Global Warming is negligible, but they have to argue with a world full of experts who disagree.

Theists often rely on non-experts. For example, scientists say that Global Warming could destroy all life on earth. The theists turn to the bible, or their preachers, or some dude who wrote a book to dispute scientists (though he doesn't have credentials to do so). Using non-science, they hope to sway people to believe as they do.

But, using phony facts is tantamount to lying. Christianity is supposed to frown on lies.

Hiding the truth is also lying. When child molesting priests are intentionally hidden by the church, that is tantamount to lying (and can be very harmful when priests are relocated....to do it again and again).

The Religious Right appointed W. Bush to be president, and the final votes were cast by the Supreme Court (5 to 4 decision to ignore election tampering in Jeb Bush's state of Florida). Then W. Bush (as president) got his lawyers to heavily redact the nation's environmental report, prompting the resignation of the woman in charge of that report. Religion and politics creates lies, which throngs of people believe.

So, by altering facts, we can believe that 2 = 12. We can use our lack of expertise to argue it, and we can accuse those with greater knowledge of being idiots.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
Satan was a good angel who fell (got evil)?
The fallen angel is no longer an angel. Hence, the satan has lost the gift of Life and Existence. Hence, the satan is the god of death and non-existence. Because satan no longer exists (in the eyes of Jesus), Evil has not come from Jesus. The "Gnostic Atheists" refer to satan, when they say "there is no god". The Nitzshe referred to dead satan, when he wrote: "god is dead". The Atheists refer to satan, when they blame god for the flood and death of sick children.

God made everything.

God made Satan.

God made the alligator that is chomping on your leg. Then you pray to God to save you, and never realize that it was God, in the first place, that imperiled your life.

But why would God make things that hurt us, and why would God ignore our impassioned prayers to help? Why does God allow cancer? Just what is the "cancer answer.?"
 

TheWingMan

Christian Evolutionist
Some Christian is more advanced than other Christians: "one glory to the Moon, another glory for the Sun" (verse from Bible), "all runners run, but only one gets the prize. So, run!", and more of such verses in the Bible. Perhaps, I am more advanced than many of my Church members. I have got two diploma, where is written: "for great efforts made for benefit of the Church".
Therefore, I AM NOT ENEMY OF GOD AND MY CHURCH.
I am using the God-given brain. There are many verses in Bible to support my conclusions. And my Church says: No Evil has come from God.

WHY I MUST SEE MY MISTAKES IF THEY EXIST

If somebody (including me) has convinced me of having
made a mistake, I repent and will try to correct the
mistake. But I cannot correct a mistake, just because
somebody has seemingly joked in saying that I have made
a mistake there. Please look at the type
of mistake demonstration, I would accept: if I would write
in a paper: ``2=5+7'', then the editor would find that
place and reply: ``2=5+7=12 does not hold''.



I am the most important person in the entire world because
without my existence I will be not experiencing any other person.
But if some stranger Bob will die somewhere, the other persons will continue
to exist in my perception. The Holy Fathers agree: "God has become Human,
for a human to become god". I am the center of my universe, with God as
Holy Spirit for me. The evil spirit (satan) wants me to do sin (the
ultimate sin is suicide), the Holy Spirit asks me to do good. For example,
to be murdered while defending homeland: "there is no higher love
than to be murdered to save the loved one", - says Jesus Christ.

I was free to choose between these two gods (Good or Evil) and
to stay true to one of them. It is marriage. Marriage with Love
herself: "bride of Christ has became ready", - says Bible.
I am the king of my world, my "castle"; and God is the
King of such kings and queens like me. As an illustration, I recommend
listening to the songs: "Ava Max -- Kings And Queens",
"Wamdue Project -- King of My Castle", "I Am Special Song, Nursery
Rhymes Songs for Children".




Jesus has not created evil. Hence, He has not created satan. Hence, satan is the second fundamental god. That is why satanism is one of the officially recognized religions in USA.
The satanists and atheists are not crazy. They serve the god. They have their special conscience.
There are two conscience-s, according to two gods. But one can understand, that hence satan is god of Death, he is the dead god. Hence, the Philosopher Nitzshe is right: "god [satan] is dead".

Yes, the satan is god. But the false god, the idol. Satan was a good angel who fell (got evil)? Is it really? The fallen angel is no longer an angel. Hence, the satan has lost the gift of Life and Existence. Hence, the satan is the god of death and non-existence. Because satan no longer exists (in the eyes of Jesus), Evil has not come from Jesus. The "Gnostic Atheists" refer to satan, when they say "there is no god". The Nitzshe referred to dead satan, when he wrote: "god is dead". The Atheists refer to satan, when they blame god for the flood and death of sick children.

We are kings and queens because we are absolutely free. We are free to do good. If something good needs to be done for the sake of humanity and Love, it will be done by the hands of any self-centered king or queen. Because God is inside the heart and mind: "the Heavenly Kingdom is inside you" (Bible, Jesus Christ). The Holy God is the Holy Spirit because the spirit is the driving motive for actions.

There are two spirits: Jesus and satan. It is because the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are One. One God. The satan is Death - the evil spirit.

If you've ever been able to view the inner workings of conception, you'll see how she takes every sperm into herself, but also that at least one is able to penetrate and fertilize the egg. That's us and this planet we call the third rock from the sun ...Earth.

One day the sun will consume this planet, and us with it to be rebirthed as a super nova. I don't fear this. We have a way of adapting to change and mother earth has a way of supplying our needs, as does the sun.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
If you've ever been able to view the inner workings of conception, you'll see how she takes every sperm into herself, but also that at least one is able to penetrate and fertilize the egg. That's us and this planet we call the third rock from the sun ...Earth.

One day the sun will consume this planet, and us with it to be rebirthed as a super nova. I don't fear this. We have a way of adapting to change and mother earth has a way of supplying our needs, as does the sun.

In Photos: This Is What We Will Look Like In 5.5 Billion Years When The Sun Is Dying

The sun will become a white dwarf, and will not supernova because it lacks mass. However, if another star merged with it, that is possible. Please see the website above (from Forbes). Forbes is not a very reliable source for science info, but the info is so well known that I figured any website will do. It is easy to find another website with the same info. Usually I cite university articles or research papers.

Sex means that everyone is extremely lucky (one out of millions of sperm make it to the egg, and that is a very lucky event, indeed). It might mean, instead, that the sperm that formed us is very strong or able to break into the egg faster than other sperm.

Isn't it strange that all of the instructions to make a human are contained in DNA. Some research even shows that memories can be stored in RNA.

The recent messenger RNA lipid nano particle that is used with certain COVID vaccines (namely Moderna and Pfizer) affects mitochondrial RNA, not nucleic RNA, and it will not pass on in our genes. Furthermore, the vaccine will be resorbed by our bodies. They had to encase it in lipids (fat) to keep it together long enough to get into cells (or the antibodies would attack it before it got to its destination.

It seems obvious that each cell of the body must communicate its location and its role as cells multiply. Otherwise, cells will go in the wrong place, or function incorrectly. Maybe this communication would be a key to curing cancer? Probably the signal is electrical. Could electrical signals (of the appropriate kind) change the way the body grows? Could we knit a severed nerve if we put the right kind of electrical signal in the body?

If the body is entirely controlled by God, you'd think that no medicine would be necessary, or no medicine would help if God wanted things to happen a certain way.
 

TheWingMan

Christian Evolutionist
In Photos: This Is What We Will Look Like In 5.5 Billion Years When The Sun Is Dying

The sun will become a white dwarf, and will not supernova because it lacks mass. However, if another star merged with it, that is possible. Please see the website above (from Forbes). Forbes is not a very reliable source for science info, but the info is so well known that I figured any website will do. It is easy to find another website with the same info. Usually I cite university articles or research papers.

Sex means that everyone is extremely lucky (one out of millions of sperm make it to the egg, and that is a very lucky event, indeed). It might mean, instead, that the sperm that formed us is very strong or able to break into the egg faster than other sperm.

Isn't it strange that all of the instructions to make a human are contained in DNA. Some research even shows that memories can be stored in RNA.

The recent messenger RNA lipid nano particle that is used with certain COVID vaccines (namely Moderna and Pfizer) affects mitochondrial RNA, not nucleic RNA, and it will not pass on in our genes. Furthermore, the vaccine will be resorbed by our bodies. They had to encase it in lipids (fat) to keep it together long enough to get into cells (or the antibodies would attack it before it got to its destination.

It seems obvious that each cell of the body must communicate its location and its role as cells multiply. Otherwise, cells will go in the wrong place, or function incorrectly. Maybe this communication would be a key to curing cancer? Probably the signal is electrical. Could electrical signals (of the appropriate kind) change the way the body grows? Could we knit a severed nerve if we put the right kind of electrical signal in the body?

If the body is entirely controlled by God, you'd think that no medicine would be necessary, or no medicine would help if God wanted things to happen a certain way.

It will red giant, then white dwarf, after which it will super nova, birthing a new galaxy in our ever expanding universe.
 

Clara Tea

Well-Known Member
It will red giant, then white dwarf, after which it will super nova, birthing a new galaxy in our ever expanding universe.

Will the sun go supernova in six years and destroy Earth (as seen on Yahoo)? (Intermediate) - Curious About Astronomy? Ask an Astronomer

Cornell University found that Dr. Piers Van Der Meer asserted that the sun will soon go supernova, but he has no published credentials, and noted that even graduate students have some papers in their background.

The website quotes Lynn Carter, PhD, Astronomy, Cornell University, who currently works at the Smithsonian Institute, Washington, D.C.: "First, the sun is too small to ever go supernova, so the basic premise of the article is incorrect. There just isn't enough mass in our sun to cause it to explode and collapse to form a neutron star or black hole." (please see the link above).

‘Black dwarf supernova’: ISU physicist calculates when the last supernova ever will happen

Illinois State University, Dr. Matt Caplan: "sun still doesn’t have enough mass to ever explode in a supernova, even in the far far future" (please see the link above).

White Dwarfs - Introduction

Goddard Space Flight Center: (less than about 8 times the mass of our Sun) will become a white dwarf (with a name like that, I figure you wouldn't argue with God).(please see the link above).

Of course I could show thousands of such highly qualified website that show that the sun will not supernova. Please show me one website supporting your assertion.
 
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