That would not surprise me at all. In fact, I would expect it.
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Is conservative media killing conservatives?
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Jose Fly
Fisker of men
As Colbert put it, reality has a liberal bias. And yeah, Carlson is indeed dangerous. White supremacy groups love the guy.
There ya' go....I wonder how many of their viewers know that? I wonder if they'd care?
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
Wait....what? Are you saying this is partially Democrat's fault because they haven't shut down Fox News and other right-wing media?
The UK has it's national media BBC and it is very good. The USA has NPR which is also very good. It seems the TV media is more influential in the USA, and much of that the evening pundits. I've watched a variety of sources. What I look at is the quality of the panels, their language, their claims, how emotional their statements are, and how well they align to what is known as being factual. There is a huge difference in how the right wing media presents it's views versus the left. Both do appeal to different kinds of emotions. But arguably our politics are highly troubling these days and the reality is Americans should be concerned and emotional about the future.
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
There's a difference between political bias and spreading dangerous misinformation though.
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
A while ago I had my kids watch Rachael Maddow with me, and then right after watch Sean Hannity. I didn't say anything and just let them watch, and when we were done I asked them what they thought. They said they were stunned at the differences, and how Maddow's show had a lot of information and expertise (they liked how she brought on subject matter experts and let them talk), whereas Hannity's show was a lot of flashy graphics, name-calling, somewhat childish attacks, and very little actual information. My oldest said the Maddow show was boring because it was like a school lecture, and Hannity's was annoying because it was so juvenile.
Of course them both being young adults now they don't even watch TV, let alone TV news. They get their information almost exclusively from the internet (although my youngest does like NPR).
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
Another article on the same thing...
Fox’s ongoing assault on the coronavirus vaccination campaign is going to kill its viewers
"On Thursday morning, a few hours after the world marked the 4 millionth known coronavirus death, Fox News host Brian Kilmeade offered a critique of President Joe Biden’s response to the pandemic.
Fox’s ongoing assault on the coronavirus vaccination campaign is going to kill its viewers
"On Thursday morning, a few hours after the world marked the 4 millionth known coronavirus death, Fox News host Brian Kilmeade offered a critique of President Joe Biden’s response to the pandemic.
“The focus of this administration on vaccination is mind-boggling,” he complained.
Over the next few minutes, Kilmeade and his co-hosts provided a bevy of rationales for why their viewers might not want to get the shots, from previous infection to concerns about the vaccines’ emergency use authorization to fears about potential health effects, all dressed up in grievances about the manner in which the government is promoting the inoculations.
What the Fox & Friends crew did not offer their viewers was a shred of encouragement to get vaccinated if they aren’t already. That’s how Fox’s biggest stars and other leading lights of the right-wing press have treated the vaccination campaign for months, even as evidence of the vaccines’ safety and effectiveness, including against new variants of the virus, has poured in. "
Over the next few minutes, Kilmeade and his co-hosts provided a bevy of rationales for why their viewers might not want to get the shots, from previous infection to concerns about the vaccines’ emergency use authorization to fears about potential health effects, all dressed up in grievances about the manner in which the government is promoting the inoculations.
What the Fox & Friends crew did not offer their viewers was a shred of encouragement to get vaccinated if they aren’t already. That’s how Fox’s biggest stars and other leading lights of the right-wing press have treated the vaccination campaign for months, even as evidence of the vaccines’ safety and effectiveness, including against new variants of the virus, has poured in. "
Short term gain, keep the eyeballs glued to the screen.
Long term this is not good for anyone, not even Fox.
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
At CPAC yesterday, the audience cheers when told the government not reaching it's vaccination goals.
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1413955463939600390
Wow.
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1413955463939600390
Wow.
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
Newsmax anchor says vaccines are against nature and "something is supposed to wipe out a certain amount of people and that’s just kind of the way evolution goes, vaccines kind of stand in the way of that."
Jason Campbell on Twitter: "Newsmax host suggests vaccines are “against nature,” and some diseases are “supposed to wipe out a certain amount of people” https://t.co/g1sIdQ949b https://t.co/TgQNFLKAav" / Twitter
Jason Campbell on Twitter: "Newsmax host suggests vaccines are “against nature,” and some diseases are “supposed to wipe out a certain amount of people” https://t.co/g1sIdQ949b https://t.co/TgQNFLKAav" / Twitter
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
Southern Baptist Convention sparks small COVID-19 cluster in Nashville (tennessean.com)
A small but worrisome coronavirus cluster has been linked to the Southern Baptist Convention’s annual meeting in Nashville, the first large-scale conference held in the city after it lifted restrictions on gatherings, according to the Metro Public Health Department.
About eight to 10 infections have been detected among attendees since the event in mid-June, which is enough to be classified as an COVID-19 cluster, said Metro Health epidemiologist Leslie Waller.
The cluster is almost certainly larger but difficult to measure because most attendees live outside of Tennessee, Waller said. The Centers of Disease Control and Prevention have issued an alert asking health officials in other states to contact Metro Health if they discover more infections that trace back to the Baptist event.
About eight to 10 infections have been detected among attendees since the event in mid-June, which is enough to be classified as an COVID-19 cluster, said Metro Health epidemiologist Leslie Waller.
The cluster is almost certainly larger but difficult to measure because most attendees live outside of Tennessee, Waller said. The Centers of Disease Control and Prevention have issued an alert asking health officials in other states to contact Metro Health if they discover more infections that trace back to the Baptist event.
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
Tennessee fires top vaccine official Michelle Fiscus as COVID spreads (tennessean.com)
Basically she sent out a memo reminding folks of a TN Supreme Court ruling that allowed minors aged 14-17 to make their own medical decisions in some cases. According to her, Republicans then fired her for it.
You can read her full statement here: Tennessee's fired vaccine chief Michelle Fiscus: Afraid for her state (tennessean.com)
Basically she sent out a memo reminding folks of a TN Supreme Court ruling that allowed minors aged 14-17 to make their own medical decisions in some cases. According to her, Republicans then fired her for it.
You can read her full statement here: Tennessee's fired vaccine chief Michelle Fiscus: Afraid for her state (tennessean.com)
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
Now, due to pressure from Republicans, Tennessee has ended all vaccine outreach for adolescents, not just for the COVID vaccines.
Tennessee vaccination outreach to minors halted, not just for COVID-19 (tennessean.com)
Tennessee vaccination outreach to minors halted, not just for COVID-19 (tennessean.com)
The Tennessee Department of Health will halt all adolescent vaccine outreach – not just for coronavirus, but all diseases – amid pressure from Republican state lawmakers, according to an internal report and agency emails obtained by the Tennessean. If the health department must issue any information about vaccines, staff are instructed to strip the agency logo off the documents.
The health department will also stop all COVID-19 vaccine events on school property, despite holding at least one such event this month. The decisions to end vaccine outreach and school events come directly from Health Commissioner Dr. Lisa Piercey, the internal report states.
Additionally, the health department will take steps to ensure it no longer sends postcards or other notices reminding teenagers to get their second dose of the coronavirus vaccines. Postcards will still be sent to adults, but teens will be excluded from the mailing list so the postcards are not “potentially interpreted as solicitation to minors,” the report states.
These changes to Tennessee’s vaccination strategy, detailed in an COVID-19 report distributed to health department staff on Friday, then reiterated in a mass email on Monday, illustrate how the state government continues to dial back efforts to vaccinate minors against coronavirus. This state's approach to vaccinations will not only lessen efforts to inoculate young people against coronavirus, it could also hamper the capacity to vaccinate adults and protect children from other infectious diseases.
The health department will also stop all COVID-19 vaccine events on school property, despite holding at least one such event this month. The decisions to end vaccine outreach and school events come directly from Health Commissioner Dr. Lisa Piercey, the internal report states.
Additionally, the health department will take steps to ensure it no longer sends postcards or other notices reminding teenagers to get their second dose of the coronavirus vaccines. Postcards will still be sent to adults, but teens will be excluded from the mailing list so the postcards are not “potentially interpreted as solicitation to minors,” the report states.
These changes to Tennessee’s vaccination strategy, detailed in an COVID-19 report distributed to health department staff on Friday, then reiterated in a mass email on Monday, illustrate how the state government continues to dial back efforts to vaccinate minors against coronavirus. This state's approach to vaccinations will not only lessen efforts to inoculate young people against coronavirus, it could also hamper the capacity to vaccinate adults and protect children from other infectious diseases.
And these changes will take effect just as the coronavirus pandemic shows new signs of spread in Tennessee. After months of declining infections, the average number of new cases per day has more than doubled in the past two weeks – from 177 to 418. The average test positivity rate has jumped from 2.2% to 5.4% in the same time period.
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
Florida Gov. DeSantis sells anti-Fauci merchandise as doctor draws Republican ire - The Washington Post
I believe the question asked in the title of this thread has been answered.
“Don’t Fauci My Florida,” read drink koozies and T-shirts that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s campaign team rolled out just as his state sees some of the highest coronavirus hospitalizations, new infections and deaths per capita in the country. It’s the latest example of Republicans running on their opposition to virus-fueled shutdowns and mask mandates.
I believe the question asked in the title of this thread has been answered.
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
Vaccine hesitancy becomes vaccine hostility as opposition to shots hardens - The Washington Post
The notion that the vaccine drive is pointless or harmful — or perhaps even a government plot — is increasingly an article of faith among supporters of former president Donald Trump, on a par with assertions that the last election was stolen and the assault on the U.S. Capitol was overblown...
...The trend is unsettling public health experts, particularly as the outbreak worsens again. Confirmed U.S. coronavirus cases have more than doubled in the past week, with deaths rising 28 percent. Medical experts say those deaths are almost entirely among unvaccinated Americans.
“We always ask, what will be the last straw? What will be the moment that we lose the ability to communicate and cooperate and get things done?” said Frank Luntz, a longtime GOP pollster who’s been working to encourage vaccinations. “Well, we’ve reached it. This is it.”
He added, “Now decisions are being made not because of evidence or facts or statistics, but strictly on political lines. And now people are going to die.”
...The trend is unsettling public health experts, particularly as the outbreak worsens again. Confirmed U.S. coronavirus cases have more than doubled in the past week, with deaths rising 28 percent. Medical experts say those deaths are almost entirely among unvaccinated Americans.
“We always ask, what will be the last straw? What will be the moment that we lose the ability to communicate and cooperate and get things done?” said Frank Luntz, a longtime GOP pollster who’s been working to encourage vaccinations. “Well, we’ve reached it. This is it.”
He added, “Now decisions are being made not because of evidence or facts or statistics, but strictly on political lines. And now people are going to die.”
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
607,000 Americans have died from it.Oh please.
Yeah all conservatives are going to die off from a sickness that kills a tiny percentage of the people that get it.
4 Million people worldwide have died from it.
Oh please, right?
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Supposedly. Out of 328 million.
We will never know how many die from the vaccine.
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
Question asked, question answered....
Cable News and COVID-19 Vaccine Compliance (ethz.ch)
Cable News and COVID-19 Vaccine Compliance (ethz.ch)
COVID-19 vaccines have already reduced infections and hospitalizations across the globe, yet resistance to vaccination remains strong. This paper investigates the role of cable television news in vaccine skepticism and associated local vaccination rates in the United States. We find that, in the later stages of the vaccine roll-out (starting May 2021), higher local viewership of Fox News Channel has been associated with lower local vaccination rates. We can verify that this association is causal using exogenous geographical variation in the channel lineup. The effect is driven by younger individuals (under 65 years of age), for whom COVID-19 has a low mortality risk. Consistent with changes in beliefs about the effectiveness of the vaccine as a mechanism, we find that Fox News increased reported vaccine hesitancy in local survey responses. We can rule out that the effect is due to differences in partisanship, to local health policies, or to local COVID-19 infections or death rates. The other two major television networks, CNN and MSNBC, have no effect, indicating that messaging matters and that the observed effect on vaccinations is not due the consumption of cable news in general. We also show that there is no historical effect of Fox News on flu vaccination rates, suggesting that the effect is COVID-19-specific and not driven by general skepticism toward vaccines.