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Sometimes, yes.Can they prevent your heart from stopping
While it is perfectly correct that these ideologies (and scientific theories) are not part of atheism, the majority of non-religious people hold many of these beliefs (particularly, pro LGBT and pro abortion).
Bottom line is you and most atheists these days agree with the whole list.
Freedom to kill an innocent human?....that sounds like NAZI Germany......nothing to do with the freedom that USA values.
How do "atheists" shove their beliefs in your face?
These claims require proof.If he died, then yes. Getting them in the first place was up to God. Every breath is with God's permission.
If they died younger, then yes it was God's will.
There are no coincidences.So God just likes people to live longer these days, and it amazingly coincides with better healthcare.
But the length of life is now flattening despite better medicine and it just happens to coincide with rising obesity?
There are no coincidences.
A lot of Christians don't consider God all-knowing or all-powerful. They say they do, but then they contradict it. See biblical view of Noah's flood and God "regretting".This seems relevant to the Problem of Evil threads.
We've had a few members over there who have argued that God is somehow not responsible for evil in the world. Your position seems to imply that not only is God responsible, but he literally sudtains all evil in the world.
Considering that Noah lived almost a thousand years, the premise of your question is uncertain. Regardless, I don't know why people live as long as they do, other than that God willed so.I agree. But I don't think the implication of that is quite what you seem to be suggesting it is.
So...come on...enough with the pointless riddles.
Why do people live longer these days?
By what objective standard of morality are you going by with this assertion?As well as moral theists.
Considering that Noah lived almost a thousand years, the premise of your question is uncertain. Regardless, I don't know why people live as long as they do, other than that God willed so.
Nice little story we call them fairy tales where I come from. There does not appear to be a way to distinguish between a fairy tale and a religious story. Perhaps you can show us the difference.Considering that Noah lived almost a thousand years, the premise of your question is uncertain. Regardless, I don't know why people live as long as they do, other than that God willed so.
Oh, if you're looking for someone who will argue that Christian doctrine is consistent, don't look at me.A lot of Christians don't consider God all-knowing or all-powerful. They say they do, but then they contradict it. See biblical view of Noah's flood and God "regretting".
According to your religious status I assume you're some variant of Satanist. In which case ... I am absolutely shocked that you would agree with atheists on any topic!I agree with most of the list. I'm not an atheist.
the same principles that led them to atheism lead them to other ideas like science [and the] liberal... state.
In fact atheism without communism has turned into a bloodbath before. If you look at the French revolution atheism was actually involved. The idea in France at the time was that the monarchy was God and church approved. If you didn't want to offend God or get excommunicated as a heretic then they believed that you had to acknowledge the "right" of the aristocracy to exist and rule France. This meant that in order for many people to justify the revolution they thought they needed atheism. Atheism was actually heavily involved with the French revolution and was part of the justification for slaughtering so many people on the guillotines.Atheism is nothing more than the lack of belief in gods. Most atheists are also secular humanists not because they are atheists, but because the same principles that led them to atheism lead them to other ideas like science and the modern, liberal, democratic, secular state. If your atheism is based in skepticism, reason, and empiricism, then that same skepticism, reason and empiricism has you reject the faith-based systems of the past such as alchemy, astrology, and creationism, and replace them with their alternatives created by removing the faith and replacing it with principles that lead to science, you get chemistry, astronomy and Big Bang/evolution.
If one rejects the faith-based received wisdom of scripture, which instructs that, "whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves," he is free to move forward to better ideas.
The same principles that led to atheism when applied to the question of the existence of gods, and to nature that led to science, converted a world of monarchies into free societies when applied to the problem of the philosophy of government.
And when taken to its logical end, we get secular humanism, which is why most atheists in the West are also secular humanists. If there is no god, it is up to man to create his world and to decide what is right and good. Humanist values include reason, compassionate rational ethics, a regard for human potential and the desire to develop it, tolerance, diversity - basic liberalism.
The point is that many atheists one encounters on the Internet have similar values and beliefs not because they are atheists, but because they are skeptics and empiricists, which accounts both for their atheism and much of the rest of their world view..
Atheists don't have to be rational or kind to be atheists. They just need to have no god belief. An atheist can be a Stalinist, but he's not a secular humanist atheist if he is. An atheist can indulge in irrational, magical thinking, as when one decides that the stars are magically controlling his life rather than a conscious agent like a deity. As long as one doesn't believe in gods, he's an atheist. But as I said, in the West, this virtually always entails secular humanism despite the theists tired argument that atheism leads to genocide. If it did, it would do so in the West as well.
I probably agree with you on many things, too. And I bet there are things on which I disagree with atheists. Religious status has very little to do with for what I agree/disagree upon.According to your religious status I assume you're some variant of Satanist. In which case ... I am absolutely shocked that you would agree with atheists on any topic!
The bloodbath in the French Revolution happened after Robespierre replaced the Cult of Reason (non-theistic) with the Cult of the Supreme Being (theistic).In fact atheism without communism has turned into a bloodbath before. If you look at the French revolution atheism was actually involved.
The cult of Supreme being was authorized by national convention on 7 May 1974, but the executions had already been going on. For example Marie Antoinette was executed 1793. This really follows the trend of other official atheist governments actually. First they declare absolute atheism and then follow it up with some kind of new replacement "godhead" because they believe people somehow "need" religion. So in NK for example you are told to worship the Kims and in China even they worship the government.The bloodbath in the French Revolution happened after Robespierre replaced the Cult of Reason (non-theistic) with the Cult of the Supreme Being (theistic).
So really just as the Cult of Reason was really getting going. You know it lasted only about a year, right?The cult of Supreme being was authorized by national convention on 7 May 1974, but the executions had already been going on. For example Marie Antoinette was executed 1793.
Robespierre was no atheist. He hated atheism. The Cult of the Supreme Being was a theistic response to secularism. It wasn't theistic window-dressing on atheism.This really follows the trend of other official atheist governments actually. First they declare absolute atheism and then follow it up with some kind of new replacement "godhead" because they believe people somehow "need" religion. So in NK for example you are told to worship the Kims and in China even they worship the government.
Just because the Monarchists used the epithet "Catholic" to describe themselves doesn't mean that they were killed for their faith.Besides just the executions by guillotine there was also the matter of the Vendee Rebellion when the French army killed possibly 150,000 civilians because of their Catholic faith.
Hahaha! Comparing science to leftist ideology! That's hilarious. So, is "skepticism, reason, and empiricism" leading to leftist ideology as well? Nothing better than a good laugh after waking up. ㅤ:)
I believe that atheism is not necessarily always a cause for genocide but is often an excuse or justification for it.
atheists literally embrace the inner beast. They literally claim they are nothing but animals. And the majority now days even claim they are a variant of ape.
As for secular humanism it has some good points although it's not totally good; but I think you fail to acknowledge that it built off of the morality of Christianity since secular humanism largely developed in Europe and not elsewhere.
Then she didn't really pass on.My mother in law passed on, and was brought back by a machine and the skill of the doctors.
No, I think it plays a part, but if God doesn't want it to work it won't. We go to a doctor, but we don't believe the doctor cures us - that is, he has no power over the affair. We don't pay doctors for curing us - we pay them for trying.You seem to be suggesting that had nothing to do with it