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What's the Deal with Evolution?

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
And this is very much likely, imo, because some of their "facts" can all so easily be proven wrong, which begs the question as to whether they actually believe in the nonsense that they publish or is it all about the "almighty $".
That's been the running question among folks on the science side for years. Do folks like Behe, Ham, Hovind, etc. really believe their nonsense, or are they just fleecing the rubes? We likely will never know.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I've never been all that civilized so the belief that I'm a human made in God's image is certainly what keeps me civilized. I would probably be living alone on some mountain as a hermit otherwise in all seriousness. But I realized God knows I need people to balance myself.
So your belief in God is the only thing keeping you from raping, pillaging and murdering?

Yikes, that's terrifying.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
So your belief in God is the only thing keeping you from raping, pillaging and murdering?

Yikes, that's terrifying.
Not uncommon in religious folk.
With the deontological crutch of axiomatic rules divorced from consequences; doctrine, and and the church's traditional antipathy toward critical analysis, skepticism and individual opinion, the religious have no need to develop an internalized morality.
 
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Muffled

Jesus in me
I would survive about 28 days in a world without science. That is how long it would take for the tablets which keep me a live to run out.

I believe that says a lot. God heals completely but physicians prescribe tablets that you have to take until you die.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
The thing is, the purpose of the Bible is not to reveal scientific truths. If I want to know detailed information about the nature of the universe, I go to a science book. If I want to know about how to live my life, I go to the Torah, or bible in yur case.

I believe you wish to limit God to a book but the truth is that He is the living God.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I believe you wish to limit God to a book but the truth is that He is the living God.
LOL this is so ironic an accusation, considering that in another thread about Abrahamic faiths being limited to God in a book, I one of the people arguing that the sacred texts are only one way of knowing God. For example, there is prayer.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I believe that says a lot. God heals completely but physicians prescribe tablets that you have to take until you die.
The thing is, you cannot depend on God to heal. Most of the time he does not, even though people pray for healing. A medication however, works on everyone who takes it.
 

tas8831

Well-Known Member
But it’s the evidence, that faith is based on.
No it isn't.
Because a Designer is needed.

For example, the Earth again... science knows that gravity alone will not set into a stable orbit, the mass of a planet. There are no physical mechanisms for such. So science, wedded to naturalism & desperate to avoid a designer, has to explain it by naturalistic means....it’s a major question that can’t just be ‘pushed under the rug.’

But the explanation is ridiculous! ...
According to.... a dude on the internet who's main sources of information on the subject are creationist websites and books?
I am like SOOO convinced...
Eventually, I think you’ll come to the same conclusion I did: undirected materialism can’t explain interacting, purposeful design on the scale we observe. And it’s everywhere.
No it isn't.[/quote]
 

tas8831

Well-Known Member
So your belief in God is the only thing keeping you from raping, pillaging and murdering?

Yikes, that's terrifying.
It is a pretty common theme for some folk. Way back in the days of AOL chat rooms, had a 'good Christian man' tell me outright that if it were not for his fear of God, he would be doing those things. Pretty sick.
I like Penn's take on this (paraphrasing) - I DO engage in all of the raping and murder I want to - which is ZERO because I do not actually want to do those things.
 
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