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Shopping for a religion

oldbadger

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Youthful and good looking Badger, retired, seeks suitable religion.
Must promise eternal ecstatic heaven, preferably with lots of very pleasant lady badgers in attendance. It would be pleasing to be able to look down on to a fiery hell full of old enemies, all shrieking merrily.
Big book of associated laws and rules which may be cherry picked for self righteous outlook on others.
Replies to Oldbadger at RF.com, please.
:p
 
Sakla

Sakla

Member
Mock Turtle said:
And which tends to advocate the following (Not for me of course - for a friend): :oops:

Treats all humans as equals (as to rights and such), does not discriminate (male/female, for example), and hopes that all fulfil their lives as they would wish (with provisos).

Doesn't tend to place humans as being at the pinnacle of creation, such that other life gets as much respect as we would hope for.

Said religion has no entry or exit requirements.

Has no particular rituals or requirements as to lifestyles - dietary or bodily modifications, for example.

Is open to revision, so not dependent upon any set principles that might oppose reality.

Has no requirement to indoctrinate children into such.

Has no authority other than reason and/or consensus.

Any offers?
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Try being a Gnostic...it only offers a more indepth and more logical explanation for how things came to be and doesn't require worship or requirements of service. It explains that God helps us attain the plan he had for your existence and this was only a trial to help us appreciate the good, it is not Karmic. Look into and google the Nag Hammadi Library and the Pistis Sophia, which explains the true understanding of psalms as how God helps us attain our best self .
 
Mock Turtle

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Sakla said:
Try being a Gnostic...it only offers a more indepth and more logical explanation for how things came to be and doesn't require worship or requirements of service. It explains that God helps us attain the plan he had for your existence and this was only a trial to help us appreciate the good, it is not Karmic. Look into and google the Nag Hammadi Library and the Pistis Sophia, which explains the true understanding of psalms as how God helps us attain our best self .
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I think my agnosticism might well put paid to such, given that I can't seem to fully align myself with any such beliefs.
 
Hermit Philosopher

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
Mock Turtle said:
And which tends to advocate the following (Not for me of course - for a friend): :oops:

Treats all humans as equals (as to rights and such), does not discriminate (male/female, for example), and hopes that all fulfil their lives as they would wish (with provisos).

Doesn't tend to place humans as being at the pinnacle of creation, such that other life gets as much respect as we would hope for.

Said religion has no entry or exit requirements.

Has no particular rituals or requirements as to lifestyles - dietary or bodily modifications, for example.

Is open to revision, so not dependent upon any set principles that might oppose reality.

Has no requirement to indoctrinate children into such.

Has no authority other than reason and/or consensus.

Any offers?
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As our relationship to God is personal, if I were your friend in question, to get closer to man; I’d live by the principles you described and alternate it with active, silent hermitage to get closer to God.


Humbly
Hermit
 
Sand Dancer

Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
Mock Turtle said:
And which tends to advocate the following (Not for me of course - for a friend): :oops:

Treats all humans as equals (as to rights and such), does not discriminate (male/female, for example), and hopes that all fulfil their lives as they would wish (with provisos).

Doesn't tend to place humans as being at the pinnacle of creation, such that other life gets as much respect as we would hope for.

Said religion has no entry or exit requirements.

Has no particular rituals or requirements as to lifestyles - dietary or bodily modifications, for example.

Is open to revision, so not dependent upon any set principles that might oppose reality.

Has no requirement to indoctrinate children into such.

Has no authority other than reason and/or consensus.

Any offers?
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https://www.amazon.com/Savvy-Conver...eywords=savvy+convert's&qid=1627414830&sr=8-1
 
Martin

Martin

Spam, wonderful spam (bloody vikings!)
Mock Turtle said:
And which tends to advocate the following (Not for me of course - for a friend): :oops:

Treats all humans as equals (as to rights and such), does not discriminate (male/female, for example), and hopes that all fulfil their lives as they would wish (with provisos).

Doesn't tend to place humans as being at the pinnacle of creation, such that other life gets as much respect as we would hope for.

Said religion has no entry or exit requirements.

Has no particular rituals or requirements as to lifestyles - dietary or bodily modifications, for example.

Is open to revision, so not dependent upon any set principles that might oppose reality.

Has no requirement to indoctrinate children into such.

Has no authority other than reason and/or consensus.

Any offers?
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Humanism sounds about right. But don't mention "religion" during the interview.:p
 
Martin

Martin

Spam, wonderful spam (bloody vikings!)
RestlessSoul said:
Presumably the purpose of adopting a religion, as opposed to following a personal spiritual path, is to share the experience with other like minded people. In which case I’d probably go for the denomination that had either the nicest people, or those I felt most comfortable with. I have always been impressed with Quakers, they seem a principled bunch, and I know they have a long history of good work with disadvantaged communities in London.

There are other factors, of course. I find the liturgy of the Catholic mass beautiful, and I am familiar with it. But my local Catholic Church is rather austere and draughty. Last time I attended mass was actually in Rome, and it was very moving, but it’s quite a trek from London to Rome on a Sunday morning.

There is a relatively new Hindu Temple just round the corner from me, a very ornate and exotic looking building. There’s a very dramatic looking mosque next door to my work; I’ve never been inside either of these buildings I’m sorry to say.

On a Saturday morning I often walk past a modern looking synagogue; the people gathered outside seem like a good natured bunch, but I’m more intrigued by the exotically attired ‘Fromers’, who a Jewish friend refers to as the Stamford Hill Cowboys. They don’t frequent this particular synagogue. Think you have to be born into Judaism anyway.

There are loads of Buddhist temples near where I live, one in particular has a reputation for being dogma-light and very welcoming. I haven’t been there either.
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You're lucky to have so many options. It's very limited where I live now (Suffolk) .
 
Martin

Martin

Spam, wonderful spam (bloody vikings!)
RestlessSoul said:
I've got the whole world on my doorstep, living in London.

Can't see the stars at night though. That's the one real downside imo. That, and the cost of living here...
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Yes, there are certainly pros and cons to London. I lived for a while in Chiswick, then off Portobello Road, then in Limehouse, and then in Hackney. Which area are you in?
 
RestlessSoul

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Meerkat said:
Yes, there are certainly pros and cons to London. I lived for a while in Chiswick, then off Portobello Road, then in Limehouse, and then in Hackney. Which area are you in?
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I live in Muswell Hill, work in Finsbury Park. North London's the best, in my completely unbiased opinion.

You'd have to win the lottery twice, to live in Portobello Road now. Gentrification has changed a lot of areas, Even Hackney is super trendy; gone are the days of spit and sawdust pubs full of Irish builders and Jamaican Tube workers. More's the pity.
 
Martin

Martin

Spam, wonderful spam (bloody vikings!)
RestlessSoul said:
I live in Muswell Hill, work in Finsbury Park. North London's the best, in my completely unbiased opinion.

You'd have to win the lottery twice, to live in Portobello Road now. Gentrification has changed a lot of areas, Even Hackney is super trendy; gone are the days of spit and sawdust pubs full of Irish builders and Jamaican Tube workers. More's the pity.
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I really enjoyed living off Portobello Road, some great places and interesting characters, very cosmopolitan. We frequented Irish pubs and Jamaican
social clubs quite a lot. But that was a long time ago!
I don't know North London that well. I visited a Hindu temple in Wembley, does that count?
 
Mock Turtle

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
@Meerkat and @RestlessSoul, I spent the first 19 years of my life in North London (Willesden), and probably enjoyed it as much as both of you, especially all the delights of the City - our local on a Friday or Saturday (can't remember) was in Soho - and we travelled about quite a bit exploring. My first job was working in the centre - firstly by tube but later cycling in - and I perhaps wouldn't have gained my interest in reading had it not been for so many good bookstores such as Foyles or others nearby, or my interest in music with the similar stores (where they often played an album before buying such). I suppose much like any large city though.
 
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