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Trump Friend, Newsmax CEO Praises Biden for Vaccination Efforts

sun rise

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
The right wing Sarah Huckabee Sanders boasted of getting the "Trump vaccine". That might cause a wee bit of cognitive dissonance. And if the fact that it was developed during the last regime before Biden became POTUS motivates people to get vaccinated, I'm happy to acknowledge that it was ready to roll out when Biden took office.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
sun rise said:
The right wing Sarah Huckabee Sanders boasted of getting the "Trump vaccine". That might cause a wee bit of cognitive dissonance. And if the fact that it was developed during the last regime before Biden became POTUS motivates people to get vaccinated, I'm happy to acknowledge that it was ready to roll out when Biden took office.
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What I find so weird is that so many Trump fans won't
get the "Trump vaccine". Some believe that it's a
plot by Democrats to cow us into submission or to
put nanobots in us.
 
sun rise

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Revoltingest said:
What I find so weird is that so many Trump fans won't
get the "Trump vaccine". Some believe that it's a
plot by Democrats to cow us into submission or to
put nanobots in us.
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I'm reminded that RomneyCare was good but ObamaCare is evil even though they were much the same.

It's tribalism - my tribe is good, your tribe is evil. Period.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
sun rise said:
I'm reminded that RomneyCare was good but ObamaCare is evil even though they were much the same.

It's tribalism - my tribe is good, your tribe is evil. Period.
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RomneyCare: What is RomneyCare?
There are other aspects.
Premiums fell under Romneycare, but rose greatly for many under
Obamacare. And states have some powers the fed gov doesn't.
While the USSC ruled Obamacare constitutional, I found their
decision unreasonable.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
1213 said:
Communist News Network is ok, we can always trust it speaks the opposite of truth. :D
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The study done by PolitiFact certainly doesn't agree with you, as CNN is rated the 2nd highest in reporting basic facts correctly right behind PBS NewsHour, and Fox was rated the least reliable, although NewsMax wasn't included in that study.

Fox was designed by Murdock to be slanted in a "conservative" direction, which is what he has been doing in his other news outlets. IOW, people who try and get their news from Fox are just buying into what used to be called "yellow journalism".
 
sun rise

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
metis said:
The study done by PolitiFact certainly doesn't agree with you, as CNN is rated the 2nd highest in reporting basic facts correctly right behind PBS NewsHour, and Fox was rated the least reliable, although NewsMax wasn't included in that study.

Fox was designed by Murdock to be slanted in a "conservative" direction, which is what he has been doing in his other news outlets. IOW, people who try and get their news from Fox are just buying into what used to be called "yellow journalism".
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Besides which, outside of North Korea there are no pure communist regimes around any more and no one is defending North Korea.

There are better outlets that are much higher up on the fact scale such as CNN web versus CNN TV. Oddly enough, Fox web is more fact-based than Fox TV although both are less factual than CNN (web to web/TV to TV).
 
Stevicus

Stevicus

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Staff member
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Jose Fly said:
Saturday as I drove into town I tuned in to local Christian talk radio. During the time I listened, it was three things.....COIVD is a hoax, vaccines are a globalist plot, and don't send your kids to college.

Somehow I think the first two are linked to the third.
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I sometimes listen to the local Fox affiliate on my way in to work. The morning host is pretty rabidly pro-Trump and right-wing. He's been on an anti-mask kick for the longest times. He trashes Fauci, Biden, or any Democrat for that matter. He also trashes Republicans who aren't complete Trump fanatics. He still considers Trump to be the "real President." I thought that was a hoot.

What really got me was when he had Dr. Richard Carmona on the phone and started getting rude and said "I know more about the coronavirus than you do." Carmona was the Surgeon General under President Bush Jr., from 2002-2006. He's a medical doctor who previously served in the Special Forces and was a decorated combat veteran in Vietnam, along with also working as a sheriff's deputy for many years. He ran for Senate in 2012 and was narrowly defeated by Jeff Flake. And this radio hack says he knows more about the coronavirus than Dr. Carmona.
 
Jose Fly

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
Stevicus said:
I sometimes listen to the local Fox affiliate on my way in to work. The morning host is pretty rabidly pro-Trump and right-wing. He's been on an anti-mask kick for the longest times. He trashes Fauci, Biden, or any Democrat for that matter. He also trashes Republicans who aren't complete Trump fanatics. He still considers Trump to be the "real President." I thought that was a hoot.

What really got me was when he had Dr. Richard Carmona on the phone and started getting rude and said "I know more about the coronavirus than you do." Carmona was the Surgeon General under President Bush Jr., from 2002-2006. He's a medical doctor who previously served in the Special Forces and was a decorated combat veteran in Vietnam, along with also working as a sheriff's deputy for many years. He ran for Senate in 2012 and was narrowly defeated by Jeff Flake. And this radio hack says he knows more about the coronavirus than Dr. Carmona.
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Wow. So how did the Dr. respond to that?
 
Wandering Monk

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
1213 said:
Unfortunately, PolitiFact has no credibility.
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If they were just making things up without credible sources you would have a point. Unfortunately, you do not have a point. The story has multiple links you can check to verify what they are saying. If you are not inclined to do so, then you cannot call yourself informed.
 
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1213

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Wandering Monk said:
If they were just making things up without credible sources you would have a point. ....
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The problem with that is, who can define a “credible source”? Politifact is on same side with CNN, so obviously they support each other. I don’t think they are credible.
 
Wandering Monk

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
1213 said:
The problem with that is, who can define a “credible source”? Politifact is on same side with CNN, so obviously they support each other. I don’t think they are credible.
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Did you check out the links in the story to the facts they found?
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
1213 said:
Unfortunately, PolitiFact has no credibility.
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That's quite disingenuous as an honest approach would be to post evidence to support your conclusion.

The reality is that there have been numerous studies over the decades that show that Fox is the least reliable national news network here in the States, although the recent additions like NewsMax, etc., I have not seen any studies on.

Thus, I recommend that you come back with facts versus just what your opinion may be.
 
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1213

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metis said:
That's quite disingenuous as an honest approach would be to post evidence to support your conclusion. ...
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It is just so that I have no reason to trust them. And when they think CNN is good, it really ruins their reputation. Fox is much better than CNN, because it is more accurate about truth and reality. CNN seems to be propaganda channel that twists everything to their narrative. If I would want to hear for example what Trump really said, I would more probably find the truth from Fox than CNN. But, the best is to look actual videos or messages where Trump or someone else tells something. That is also how it can be seen how far from reality CNN really is.

Here are also some funny CNN moments:
Top 20 CNN Fake News Moments

They are funny, because most of them are censored. :D

But, the last one shows basically that CNN is propaganda outlet for democrats, which I think should be obvious for everyone watching it.

I personally like real news channels that are not promoting their own agenda. I don’t think Fox is perfect, but I think it is better in telling actual news. I don’t like “news” outlets that want to control what people think, like also MSNBC is doing.

But sorry, I don’t have enough time to find you all the evidence for why I think CNN is utterly fake, probably worse than Soviet Unions Pravda. It is also simply too painful to watch their arrogant and stupid shows. That is why I understand if you don’t agree with me. But, I hope you understand, by what I have seen, it is impossible to take them, or anyone who thinks they are good, seriously.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
1213 said:
Fox is much better than CNN, because it is more accurate about truth and reality.
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Not according to many studies whereas Fox shows up last in terms of news accuracy with MSNBC being right behind but still a distance away.

1213 said:
But sorry, I don’t have enough time to find you all the evidence for why I think CNN is utterly fake, probably worse than Soviet Unions Pravda.
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This shows how effectively you're been brainwashed, and what you are doing is conflating "bias" with "accuracy". Yes, CNN has a strong bias to the left, no doubt whatsoever about that, but it still is light years ahead of Fox on the "accuracy" part..

1213 said:
It is also simply too painful to watch their arrogant and stupid shows.
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Then why are you watching Fox? [btw, I do watch it at times myself for reasons to be menmtioned]

1213 said:
But, I hope you understand, by what I have seen, it is impossible to take them, or anyone who thinks they are good, seriously.
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I don't have any kind of loyalty to any one channel and, as a matter of fact, I get my news daily literally from well over a dozen different different sources, including foreign. I've done this for decades as I taught a poli sci course for roughly 25 years, thus objectivity was and is VERY important to me.

Fox basically caters to the Trump crowd, and it is in reality more of a propaganda channel that an objective news channel. If your getting you national news from them, that will explain some of the things that you post that clearly don't fit the reality. I know a few people who will only watch Fox for their national news, and it has long appeared to me that they live in an alternative universe full of "alternative facts".

IOW, let me recommend you "diversify" and not fall victim to propaganda such as the "BIG LIE".
 
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