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Who is the God of Abraham to you?

Ashoka

श्री कृष्णा शरणं मम
I believe he exists, but he could be an asura or rakshasa, or maybe even a deva (big stretch though) but definitely not as the supreme God. He has benevolent attributes, as rakshasas often do (Trijata,Vibhishana, Prahlada, for example). He’s relevant to me as a gay man only because of what his followers do and have done thinking it’s in his name, e.g. persecuting Pagans and LGBT+ persons.

I think seeing him as a Rakshasa is accurate; he tries to be good, but his pride and jealousy gets in the way.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
Who is the God of Abraham to you? I've seen a couple of featured threads about the God of Abraham today but first we could ask who is He and can we define Him? So often when we discuss the God of Abraham we have vastly different concepts.

Is He a he, her or transcendent about human conception of gender. Is He knowable, unknowable and how can we know. Did He send Prophets, Messengers, Avatars or Manifestations? Do scriptures inform us of who He is? Which scriptures enlighten us and which lead us to confusion? Does He exist or not exist? What else should we know? Who is the God of Abraham to you?
I believe the God of Abraham, according to the biblical scriptures is an Eternal, Self-existent, Spirit Being (Deuteronomy 33:27; Exodus 3:14; John 4:24). The scriptures indicate that prophets were sent to provide revelation from God, with the ultimate and final revelation being God Himself coming to earth in the Person of Jesus Christ to directly express His love and salvation by paying for the sins of the world (John 3:15-16).
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Who is the God of Abraham to you? I've seen a couple of featured threads about the God of Abraham today but first we could ask who is He and can we define Him? So often when we discuss the God of Abraham we have vastly different concepts.

Is He a he, her or transcendent about human conception of gender. Is He knowable, unknowable and how can we know. Did He send Prophets, Messengers, Avatars or Manifestations? Do scriptures inform us of who He is? Which scriptures enlighten us and which lead us to confusion? Does He exist or not exist? What else should we know? Who is the God of Abraham to you?
I think there's a great deal to know about the God of Abraham. We have the Torah, Gospels, Koran, Book of Mormon, Bahaism and many others.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Our first original holy father was elderly when he died. Yet when he lived he was young. Spiritual. Beautiful in presence. Our holy father.

God was already present in spiritual peace as a body eternal language as history mass burst. Burnt. Contracted space opening cooling as space opened as eternal lost its presence. Burning.

The answer where did creation come from and why men in science said space is a womb holding its burnt God children within it.

At peace the spirit of God in spirit language. Resting.

Entombed.

Now if you ask was a spirit being changed into God O bodies as it removed itself out of the eternal. As a story did it to itself?

Space becoming the womb now held within eternal burnt sacrificed creation.

Yes says science I saw multi spirit bodies emerge out of a converted earth mass myself. I knew God as mass had come from and was or had been released from a place as spirit.

Human reasoning. I am only a small bio life. Angels in clouds are huge. I named them in observation to be from the body of God.

They live and keep me safe in their manifestation so I know God had suffered burning sacrifice was at rest cooling in peace and it's stone tomb had released its angels as proof.

The angels never human however look like us as we too came out of the eternal de manifested only after heavens had existed in all base one forms and became lower form. All bio life. We knew we came from spirit.

We knew we were never God.

As an evolution cannot take base one bodies any higher than their base one form.
 

Gargovic Malkav

Well-Known Member
When your view begins to speak on others and which god is theirs, it becomes a problem. You're free to have your beliefs concerning your beliefs, not anyone else's. No, this post (nor the one prior) is not the same thing as what you claimed in your post.

I was stating my beliefs.
My God is the Ruler of all things and beings.
People are things and beings too.
This is why I believe this.
I didn't say anything about other people's beliefs.
If I would state it your way, I would have to lie to myself and pretend you and many others don't exist.
 

Fallen Prophet

Well-Known Member
Who is the God of Abraham to you? I've seen a couple of featured threads about the God of Abraham today but first we could ask who is He and can we define Him? So often when we discuss the God of Abraham we have vastly different concepts.

Is He a he, her or transcendent about human conception of gender. Is He knowable, unknowable and how can we know. Did He send Prophets, Messengers, Avatars or Manifestations? Do scriptures inform us of who He is? Which scriptures enlighten us and which lead us to confusion? Does He exist or not exist? What else should we know? Who is the God of Abraham to you?
I believe that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - later named Israel - is the Lord Jesus Christ.

I believe that He is a male - that he is knowable - and that He sent prophets among Mankind since the beginning.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
I didn't say anything about other people's beliefs.
Yes, you did.
To me He's my God and your God, and also God of those who don't believe in Him,
What you've said, bolded, infers a relationship with your god. I don't care if you believe he's King of the World and Everything, that doesn't make him our god. That would be like me telling you that your god is Loki and Sif when you harvest the wheat. Freyr when you plant a seed. Thor when you prepare for a storm. Regardless of what you believe Abraham's god is, you don't have the right to tell non-Abrahamists who their god is. My god is Thor, not Yahweh.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Why learn about them? Demonstrate your god without those texts.

Why should I? I was asking an atheist. It was not some challenge for me to present my concept of God.

1. Anyway, so you think that God is purely judged by the two books, Bible and the Quran?
2. Have you mastered them both?
 

Gargovic Malkav

Well-Known Member
What you've said, bolded, infers a relationship with your god. I don't care if you believe he's King of the World and Everything, that doesn't make him our god.

Those are your beliefs.
You won't hear me make a big deal out of it.

That would be like me telling you that your god is Loki and Sif when you harvest the wheat. Freyr when you plant a seed. Thor when you prepare for a storm.

You can do that if that's what your beliefs are. It would even make sense to me because I know what your religious identity is.
I may get a little bit of a neurotic feeling because you have such different beliefs than I do.
I can be proud and sensitive like that, but I try not to act out on them because I don't think it'll do any good.

Regardless of what you believe Abraham's god is, you don't have the right to tell non-Abrahamists who their god is.

I didn't do that. So please stop accusing me of things I didn't do. Note the first words of my post. I started the sentence with the words "to me".

My god is Thor, not Yahweh.

In your view Yahweh plays no role in your picture. I know that.
But this gives you no right to decide for me what my definition of God should be like, so please stop forcing your views down my throat because you didn't like what I said.

Edit: Added a hint that shows that your accusation of me telling other people what their beliefs are is false.
 
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The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
so you think that God is purely judged by the two books, Bible and the Quran?
Can the god of Abraham be demonstrated without them?

Those are your beliefs.
No, that is more than my beliefs. I do not worship, honor, venerate, or even respect Yahweh, the god of Abraham. He is not my god; this is a fact.

I didn't do that. So please stop accusing me of things I didn't do. Note the first words of my post. I started the sentence with the words "to me".
You did, and it doesn't matter that you preluded it with "to [you]". I'm not-so-passively requesting that you don't hold an assertion on who my (and others') god is, namely being yours.

In your view Yahweh plays no role in your picture. I know that. But this gives you no right to decide for me what my definition of God should be like, so please stop forcing your views down my throat because you didn't like what I said.
It absolutely gives me the right to voice my absolute disagreement with your belief being superimposed on mine. Ironic in that you're the one here forcing a view; this matters in that your perception is that somehow Yahweh plays a role in my life and my beliefs. This is false, intrusive, and if you cannot bear to change your beliefs perhaps you ought best keep them to yourself.
 
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