Ostronomos
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It begins from pure potential and then in its most simplest form evolves into higher order beings. But only after the wavefunction collapses. Hence the embryo's wavefunction.
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Question to Creationists: What's the Mechanism?
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It begins from pure potential and then in its most simplest form evolves into higher order beings. But only after the wavefunction collapses. Hence the embryo's wavefunction.
Heyo
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So only the first life manifested from a wave function and evolution took over from that? That is akin to what @Conscious thoughts said above. It doesn't refute evolution. Or am I misunderstanding you?
firedragon
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Thats the tree of life. Its the Darwinian theory. Not just "evolution".
Nevertheless. Is this like Gospel truth to you?
firedragon
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Dont you think science is trying to find out how it was done?
Justanatheist
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No before science(whatever that is) would look into how a god created life someone would have to show a god existed.
It is also interesting how so many theists believe in Intelligent Design, whereas ID has never made sense to me.
Because of the chaotic and beautifully diverse speciation.
But I deeply respect the belief in ID.
If God had had a say, he would have made no carnivorous animal.
Because of the chaotic and beautifully diverse speciation.
But I deeply respect the belief in ID.
If God had had a say, he would have made no carnivorous animal.
firedragon
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What do you think scientific exploration is finding out?
Heyo
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Justanatheist
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Some really interesting stuff about free will and how it probably does not exist.
firedragon
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Unscientific statement.
One doesnt need alternatives to know basics of philosophy of science. A scientific theory is not considered absolute or/and fact.
Simple English. Ill give you a different wording if you like.
Do you think its "unquestionably true"?
leroy
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As an Old earth theisitc evolutionist.
my Best hypothesis would be:
Those organisms evolve through natural mechanisms that where predetermined to evolve the way they are.
So for example God since the beginning wanted feathers to evolve 160M years ago, therefore he FT the universe and everything such that dinosaurs would get the correct mutations att he correct time, so that they can produce feathers 160M years ago.
So in my view evolution is like a Rube Goldberg machine (also called domino effect machine)
firedragon
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Science found out there is no free will? Wow. Thats great.
Pls do provide the scientific paper that proves that as fact. Thanks in advance.
Heyo
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Are you going to answer the question I put forth in the OP or do you simply want to troll?
Justanatheist
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Sorry never said that science proved there was no free will. Must be disappointing for you, is English your first language?
Anyway if your interested in it I suggest you google it and do your own research, that way you will not run the chance of mis-understanding me.
firedragon
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I was just clarifying your statement you made. You didnt answer but just tried to make some insulting remarks. Maybe you do know exactly what trolling is.
No worries. The answer to that question is, there are many theories of how God created and evolved life on earth. One of them is that there was an initial single cell organism that emerged from water and split into its own mates and bread and life evolved afterwards through a process of evolution. But they are theories. Not understood as absolute fact.
firedragon
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Yes. English is my first language. Is it not yours? Anyway, the answer you gave to my question was that. So obviously you were making a small mistake. So anything else to say?
Maybe since your first language is English you should "google" this.
"BURDEN OF PROOF FALLACY".
Justanatheist
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Oh dear, if English is your first language you should of learned what a qualifier is? Probably not
firedragon
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Oh dear, if English is your first language you should of learned what a qualifier is? Probably not
So which scientist with what research found out there is no free will like you said? Please do provide the information. Otherwise your statement was just false.
Justanatheist
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You still have not got the idea what probably means, guess what, this is not a formal debate, this is a discussion forum, you can either google it, sulk or lump it I care not which.
firedragon
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Nice.