Try to put your self in to the thoughts of an Atheist.

Conscious thoughts said:

Did you try to put your own belief in God and Jesus to the side, and look at what Atheists get ticked off by by the religious people? or did you see an chance to push atheists down because your belief is "more correct than their non belief in God" ?

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Dave Watchman said:

There's more to this.

I never look for a "chance to push atheists down because your belief is "more correct than their non belief.

No, time is too short for that.

You ask what the Atheist gets ticked off by the religious people.

I saw a guy irritated about why my God would have an issue with his sexual proclivity. He lamented why shouldn't he have the right to lay down with and take care of the wonderful man that he loved.

Bible people are just a reminder of what God wants them to do.

Look at that phrase self righteous.

Having or characterized by a certainty, especially an unfounded one, that one is totally correct or morally superior.

Where they put the "self" being right, above the Creator. Religious people are a constant reminder of this. They put the created, above the Creator.

"So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.​

Peaceful Sabbath.

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Mestemia said:

My first guess is because the group of Satanists you appear to be referring to is an extremely small portion of population?

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Dave Watchman said:

Sorry man.

My read on it is that all the belief systems have finally fallen and morphed into the 8th King, which is one of the seven, Lucifer's theocratic Government.

The world has wandered after the beast

Acceptance. When the Atheist reaches acceptance on a global scale, they will seek to kill God. Satan will gather them for that great battle in the valley that is symbolically called Megiddo. When the world is at war with God. Like it is right now.

Armor up.

Peaceful Sabbath.

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Clara Tea said:

Archangels are more powerful than humans. Satan is also a snappy dresser (assuming no Gays in heaven, as Christian's assert). One can't be prideful without being neat. Satan is surrounded by beautiful women (since anyone beautiful is not allowed in heaven). Satan loves music and dance (which is sinful in heaven, according to Puritans).

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Clara Tea said:

In heaven, everything is glum, frowsy, depressing, and nasty. Heavy is filled with judgemental people who hate Gays, hate other Christians who don't believe exactly as they do, hate Jews, and hate Muslims. Heaven is a place of hatred and sharp tongued war mongers.

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Conscious thoughts said:

Personally i know of many atheists who are more in chance of getting in to heaven than many religious people. because the Atheist does not take his pride so highly as a religious person happen to do.

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Conscious thoughts said:

To know what God want us to do and actually doing it, is not as easy as it sound, because of human ego

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Mestemia said:

And yet you claim that you are not doing the exact opposite of what is suggested in the OP?

Seriously?

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Conscious thoughts said:

If you are a theist or other form of religious/spiritual and often find your self in a discussion or debate with atheists.

Try to let your own faith and belief lay down for a moment, try to understand what non believers see when you speak about God, or about how they are wrong....are they not wrong according to you? not to them self? because you defend your own belief to avoid the same comment from an atheist, right? You do not want to be the one who are wrong? God forbidd it

As a believer in a God or Buddha, what can you learn about your self if you take the time to listen to an atheist speaking from their P.O.V ?

The discussion is not about Theist being right and Atheists wrong.
this discussion is what can a believer learn about them self by listen to how an atheist see you and your belief?

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Dave Watchman said:

When the Atheist reaches acceptance on a global scale, they will seek to kill God.

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Justanatheist said:

Where do you get this idea from?

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Justanatheist said:

Ok bearing in mind what this thread is about, try putting yourself in the mind of an atheist and imagine what I would think of that. What do you think that would be?

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Dave Watchman said:

I might think to re-check my calibration, that I am on the correct end of the stick.

Before I found myself in a losing battle.

Armageddon wise.

Peaceful Sabbath.

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ChristineM said:

Having been both christian (in formative years) and an atheist. I can say being atheist is a different way of thinking that often seems like a brick wall never to be climbed by a theist.

I see it on RF, i see it when i speak to religious people in every day life. It seems to me the the average god believers simply cannot think in terms of no god.

So learning from an atheist, about atheism is something that I don't think can happen unless the theist has serious doubts about their belief.

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Vinayaka said:

I was about to make a similar post about the difficulty of 'thinking' the way another person thinks. I have similar doubts about the dharmic faiths with the Abrahamic faiths. I've failed miserably at trying to explain that I think differently than they do. It's even gone to the extent that some have said they do understand my paradigm, and then go on rather quickly to prove to me they didn't at all.

Similar to you, I've at least lived in two different paradigms. My formative years were spent in atheism, so I do have a sense of what that means, just as you do for Christianity. I believe that helps to some degree.

But I'm now at the point of no return. Although I suspect the OP's heart is in the right place, is it really possible? I think it's fair to say the different paradigms are like cultures, and culture shock is an analogy that fits. Anyone who has spent time of say, three months or more, in a radically different culture (say American to Somalia, or Japan) would see the difficulty.

I know I could never think like an Abrahamic, so why spend time trying to? I know I can't run a mile in 4 minutes, so why would I try?

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Conscious thoughts said:

what can you learn about your self if you take the time to listen to an atheist speaking from their P.O.V ?

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syo said:

Nothing. Atheists simply know nothing.

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ChristineM said:

Talking of culture shock. There are many Japanese who visit Paris France. Culture shock can be fairly instant for some. It has reached a point where the French government has stepped in with a service to repatriate the suffer back to their home country.

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Justanatheist said:

I am wiser than this man, for neither of us appears to know anything great and good; but he fancies he knows something, although he knows nothing; whereas I, as I do not know anything, so I do not fancy I do.
Socrates.

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