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Arkansas inflicts child abuse on its school children

NewGuyOnTheBlock

NewGuyOnTheBlock

Cult Survivor/Fundamentalist Pentecostal Apostate
Wildswanderer said:
Child abuse? Really?
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I believe it is. It is because, indoctrination of this sort encourages the child to jam their fingers in their ears and willfully reject the wonder of our natural world; so that they will continue to financially support pastors and preachers and televangelists. It is absolutely, abuse.

Wildswanderer said:
Learn them early to think outside the popular position box and you will have adults that can think for themselves, instead of yes men or women.
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That is what science is all about! (You do realize, that Creationism is the default position of the Bible Belt of Arkansas? That Christianity is the default position in American culture?)
 
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Wildswanderer

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NewGuyOnTheBlock said:
I believe it is. It is because, indoctrination of this sort encourages the child to jam their fingers in their ears and willfully reject the wonder of our natural world; so that they will continue to financially support pastors and preachers and televangelists. It is absolutely, abuse.



That is what science is all about! (You do realize, that Creationism is the default position of the Bible Belt of Arkansas? That Christianity is the default position in American culture?)
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What nonsense! We taught our kids that God created. Evolution is the popular position, and creationism isn't just for Christians BTW. It's got nothing to do with TV evangelists. And reject the wonder of the natural world? That's what evolution theory does! It makes it all pointless, just an unending line of causation by nothing for no reason. And makes us just animals. The default position of American culture is evolution.
Child abuse is teaching kids that nothing matters because they are just apes and the universe is just the result of blind chance. And they have understood that quite well, as indicated by suicide and depression and hopelessness that is epidemic among the young.
 
NewGuyOnTheBlock

NewGuyOnTheBlock

Cult Survivor/Fundamentalist Pentecostal Apostate
Wildswanderer said:
We taught our kids that God created.
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Which God?

Wildswanderer said:
Evolution is the popular position
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You haven't looked at recent polls, have you? An appalling 40% of Americans believe Creationism: 40% of Americans Believe in Creationism

Wildswanderer said:
creationism isn't just for Christians BTW
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So how can you be so certain that your version of Creation is the correct one? How do you know that you're not teaching your kids -- and these kids in Arkansas -- to believe in the wrong version of Creation or the wrong god?

Wildswanderer said:
And reject the wonder of the natural world? That's what evolution theory does!
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Absolutely! To say that some supreme being "zapped" a butterfly into existence completely robs from us the wonder of how it came to be.

Wildswanderer said:
It makes it all pointless, just an unending line of causation by nothing for no reason.
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That's because you're too indoctrinated to think outside the box that your doctrine has trapped you into.

Wildswanderer said:
And makes us just animals.
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We are, by definition, "animal", if you understand the definition of "animal" which I bet you don't:
definition animal - Google Search

Wildswanderer said:
The default position of American culture is evolution.
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Since when is evolution a culture? You don't understand what THAT is either.

Wildswanderer said:
Child abuse is teaching kids that nothing matters because they are just apes and the universe is just the result of blind chance.
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Evolution doesn't teach kids that "nothing matters". It is not supposed to teach morals or any friggin' thing else other than an explanation of the diversity of species; it isn't supposed to teach morality or philosophy or anything else of that nature,

no more than arithmetic is supposed to teach anything other than how numbers work (and doesn't)
no more than english grammar is supposed to teach anything else other than how the english language works (and doesn't),
any more than history is supposed to teach anything else other than what happened in the past of our world and society (and doesn't).

Wildswanderer said:
And they have understood that quite well, as indicated by suicide and depression and hopelessness that is epidemic among the young.
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So teenaged suicide is blamed on evolution!?

I'm speechless.
 
ElishaElijah

ElishaElijah

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NewGuyOnTheBlock said:
Jesus isn't credited with writing the bible, and jesus is the only man you claim never lied, soooooo ........
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Jesus is the Word made flesh, God is the Author and used godly men to record His Word and message. Jesus is the only man who never lied or sinned, the rest of us have, too many to count.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
NewGuyOnTheBlock said:
I believe it is. It is because, indoctrination of this sort encourages the child to jam their fingers in their ears and willfully reject the wonder of our natural world; so that they will continue to financially support pastors and preachers and televangelists. It is absolutely, abuse.
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It can also hinder them should they try to pursue things beyond the church. I can't think of a program for evolutionary biology that would accept someone who was taught Jehovah created everything as-is 6 to 10 thousand years ago with evolution being entirely a lie. Want to go to med school but was taught women have a set of ribs men don't have? Cosmologist when your education fundamentally cannot account for the light we see of distant stars?
Even just life itself takes some getting used to when you are that deeply ingrained with it.
 
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Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
NewGuyOnTheBlock said:
And if your God made all the evidence point to something that wasn't true, then yes, your God is a liar, a deceiver and a trickster.
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Only he didn't. There's so many holes in the ToE it's tottering and about to fall. DNA could not have created itself. The computer you are typing on is a lot less complex than your DNA, but you would think I was insane if I said your computer was the result of random processes.
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

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Wildswanderer said:
Only he didn't. There's so many holes in the ToE it's tottering and about to fall. DNA could not have created itself. The computer you are typing on is a lot less complex than your DNA, but you would think I was insane if I said your computer was the result of random processes.
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Computers don't reproduce like biological organisms, do they?

Can you name one of these "holes" you speak of? The things you mentioned here aren't holes.
 
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