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A huge change in way of life with 5 prayers a day.

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Then why even pray in the direction of Kaaba if it's not important? From what I've read, the fire is a sacred symbol to Zoroastrians. Is the Kaaba not also sacred to Muslims?

Firstly, I'd love to see your source for that prayer so I can have context to what it's intentions actually are. Secondly, are you telling me that zoroastrians literally think fire is going to bestow those blessings, not Ahura Mazda? Where did you get that information from? I'd like links for that, too.

Maybe I'm uninformed, but I never read that in my studies. All I've ever read was that fire was a sacred symbol of Ahura Mazda. I've never read anywhere that they actually believe that fire literally bestows blessings like some kind of sentient, supernatural being. o_O

It feels like you're building a straw man.

Here's the link,
Muslims don't ask the help from the Kaaba, I'll agree with you if they mention the Kaaba
in their prayer, but that never happen.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
***Mod Post***

Please note that this thread is in the prayer and meditation section. This is not a debate forum.

The question in the op is, "Do you have similar experiences with prayer yourself?"
This is an invitation to discuss your own experiences, not critique anyone else's experiences or practices
.

 

SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
***Mod Post***

Please note that this thread is in the prayer and meditation section. This is not a debate forum.

The question in the op is, "Do you have similar experiences with prayer yourself?"
This is an invitation to discuss your own experiences, not critique anyone else's experiences or practices
.


My mistake. Apologies! :D
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I can't help but wonder why it is important to pray (or do anything else) a specific number of times per day. Yes, eating 3 meals a day seems to be a thing, but it's healthier to eat when you're hungry. I only pee and poo when I have to -- I never even bother to try when my body doesn't feel like it. I read when I feel like reading, and listen to music (or play it) when the muse prompts me.

So what is it that makes praying at 5 specific times every day --- whether you have something on you mind that you wish to communicate with God --- something that one ought to do?

Some studies proved that prayers have good effect on the well being and the physical health .
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Just wondering, weren't you a supporter/follower of Falun gong or something like that a few weeks ago? And now it says Sunni Islam... if im correct in that, why did you give up on that, just wondering?

He is practising progressive revelation

:D

Next step is ;)

Prayer is food for the Soul.

Regards Tony
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
One of the biggest changes that i see so far is going from meditation a few times a week or when in good mood up to once a day. To now learning to pray 5 times a day, a few of the prayets happening in the night and very early morning :)

A very different devotion is needed but inhave to say, even i feel its a lot to learn, i am so much more calm from within. And the teaching in the quran is so much better then i can remember from past times i tried to read. Dedicaton is different but more relaxed toward life.

Maybe it is the prayers that has calmed me down :)

Do you have similar experiences with prayer you self?

Yes, as prayer to me is food for the Soul.

As a Baha'i, and work done in the spirit of service is also ranked as worship.

Regards Tony
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
A very different devotion is needed but inhave to say, even i feel its a lot to learn, i am so much more calm from within.

From the science angle, I would propose that various forms of prayer and meditation can put a person into a mild altered state. Like theta waves or some such.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I just think it is very interesting that something as fundamental as prayer is, can be so diverse in its application, depending on the tenets of a faith. If there is one God, how can there be so many diverse opinions and practices?

Meditation too has a different application in different religions.
To a Christian, it is mindfully contemplating the deeper spiritual aspects of life and our relationship with him, not emptying the mind, but filling it with profound applications of God’s will for us.

How does Islam view meditation?
Those i spoken with about meditation just get curioues about it.
I have not found that Islam is against meditation, prayer is very similar in feeling because the mind get empty, at least for me it did :)
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
The mosque is very close to my house, I was asking myself why I don't hear the call for the dawn prayer,
I wasn't praying at that time even though I'm a Muslim, One day I decided to pray and in the first day
I prayed the evening prayer and I slept at night, for the first time I woke up in the dawn hearing the call
of the dawn prayer, I was really surprised why I heard it just when I started to pray, and I was able to
hear it everyday.

The dawn prayer is really difficult when you have to pray in the very early morning, and I guess
you'll face difficulties in praying 5 times a day in the place where you live, I believe you'll need to
combine all prayers together if you can't pray during the day.
I noticed that if i am out in the town it can be difficut, because norwegian people are not used to a norwegian person doing the prayer as a muslim :)
But i dont think bad about them, its just how it is here.

Prayer room is a good thing :p
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I am not a Christian, so I can't answer from that perspective, but as a parent, there would be some things I could get used to hearing my kids repeat, such as "I love you, Mom" or "I cleaned my room today" or "I did well in school". Its mostly the "I wants" that parents dread hearing over and over again. If prayer were used to express love or happiness, I think in most cases God wouldn't object.

Also, some religions don't see God as someone or something separate from themselves, they see God as dwelling within. Repeating a prayer isn't meant to annoy, its meant to function more like an affirmation.



Congratulations on your conversion, and I hope you find everything you are looking for. :)
Thank you @JustGeorge
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Just wondering, weren't you a supporter/follower of Falun gong or something like that a few weeks ago? And now it says Sunni Islam... if im correct in that, why did you give up on that, just wondering?
You are correct, one of thecreasons for my change is that i realized i had no progress spiritually in Falun Gong, not that it is anything wrong with thst teaching. But i vould not keep up, and i got more and more frustrated, and what you saw of me in that time was a poor version of me. I was becoming egoistic, i did to much wrong.

My girlfriend has also a reason in my conversion, she is sunni muslim too, so to me it felt very natural to convert, and yes i do believe in the Quran and Allah
 

Psalm23

Well-Known Member
One of the biggest changes that i see so far is going from meditation a few times a week or when in good mood up to once a day. To now learning to pray 5 times a day, a few of the prayets happening in the night and very early morning :)

A very different devotion is needed but inhave to say, even i feel its a lot to learn, i am so much more calm from within. And the teaching in the quran is so much better then i can remember from past times i tried to read. Dedicaton is different but more relaxed toward life.

Maybe it is the prayers that has calmed me down :)

Do you have similar experiences with prayer you self?

I have found prayer to have often been calming for me. I think it can depend on how one approaches prayer and one’s view of God such as if God is seen as benevolent or not. In my personal experience, I have prayed in a panicky way during a panic attack before which seemed to increase the anxiety.
 

Marcion

gopa of humanity's controversial Taraka Brahma
I did meditation 5 times a day once in a training centre for 3 months in a row.

Early morning at 5 o'clock, morning time after collective kiirtana before breakfast, noon time (short) one before lunch, evening after collective kiirtana before supper and I would do one during the still of night around 2AM near the trainer under a neem tree when all the other trainees were fast asleep and it was nice and cool outside.

But in a training centre, you are in a collective flow (little to choose), so it is much easier to keep up.
I was used to twice a day only, so it did make a big difference, especially the night ones kept me in a constant uplifted state of mind, you tend to continue your meditation even during sleep time.
 
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