Actually you are simply terming the path of moderation as extreme here, and it only seems to decieve those whose hearts have been twisted by hate in my opinion.
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The idea of hell is emotionally draining.
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Then His Mercy is not greater than His Wrath..
His mercy though embraces all things, has no place for disbelievers in the next world despite it's greatness, it is greater then his wrath though.
Then how can one say it embraces all things? You are effectively saying it embraces all things except disbelievers..
He has compassion for them and has given ample chance to turn back, and wants them to repent. This is what it means, but, disbelievers there will be nothing for them in the next world but punishment.
Truthseeker
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Disbelievers can't have mercy? Then what does mercy greater than His wrath mean? Can't God do as He pleases with each individual?
It means if people repent he accepts it and he tries to help people overcome their sinful state through his compassion.
I believe Allah time and again in the Qur'an warns the disbelievers of His Wrath and punishment in Hell for their disbelief but Allah also time and again reminds us of His Mercy and if we take also His Statements that His Mercy embraces all things and His Mercy will prevail over His Wrath, the way to interpret all this is that Allah will punish the disbelievers in Hell in accordance with His Wrath and for as long as His Wrath exists, but His Wrath will eventually be extinguished and only His Mercy will be left, and then the disbelievers will be forgiven their disbelief.
God does not tolerate ingratitude towards him and rebellion to him from my understanding. Prophets and leaders appointed by God are means to him, if you reject them, you reject his greatest favor upon humanity and you reject the light towards him and his proofs and he doesn't accept this. The reaction to such actions is punishment forever unless they repent and change.
You can believe what you want, but I embrace both sides of God, his wrath and mercy. I embrace his vengeance towards dark souls as much I embrace his compassion for believers and his mercy on them.
Hermit Philosopher
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Dear Link
It may be worth noting that by focusing so much on this, we manage to create a bit of “hell” in our very own beings.
To be emotionally drained by issues [of faith] is to contribute to an overall hell-like state - not in any afterlife, but in the very here and now, continuously, all the time.
When instead, we live and act from a principle of servitude, our focus is nor on the self or on a timeline, but on the needs of others and on the present. It is to live by Divine Will (as opposed to by will of ego) and doing this, is the secret to inner fulfilment and a certain path towards the promotion of serenity and manifestation of the worldly state of “heaven”.
Humbly
Hermit
And you are entitled to believe what you want too.
We aren't entitled to either believe or speak about God what we don't know, but at the end, God will judge all this and we leave the matter for God.
Aameen!
You are right but best motivation is to save ourselves and as much as possible people out of this fear. It does create severe sadness, especially by the sheer numbers of enemies and little number of believers, it's hard to recognize, but none the less, is the reality.
Ahlulbayt of each time are signs of God treasured by him and light from him, through them God's Name is manifested and he is known through them. The Quranic argument is that these holy souls would connect everyone to God if they can and they can provide miracles and signs.
If we don't see God at the end and are veiled from him and his signs and don't see the beauty in his light and reject it, it's because our actions are for other then him.
If we don't go to his door and walk the path leading to God, where will we go?
Those who go to other than God and enter through other then his doors, why do they do what they do?
Everyone doing it (going to other then God's guidance) and very little entering God's door, is not an excuse. To him is the means of ascensions and you have to seek proofs and insights, not just make up reality. Those who trusted misguiding Jinn and humans and were lead astray into darkness, why did they do it? Why was not God's chosen leaders good enough for them?
If we don't see God at the end and are veiled from him and his signs and don't see the beauty in his light and reject it, it's because our actions are for other then him.
If we don't go to his door and walk the path leading to God, where will we go?
Those who go to other than God and enter through other then his doors, why do they do what they do?
Everyone doing it (going to other then God's guidance) and very little entering God's door, is not an excuse. To him is the means of ascensions and you have to seek proofs and insights, not just make up reality. Those who trusted misguiding Jinn and humans and were lead astray into darkness, why did they do it? Why was not God's chosen leaders good enough for them?
Truthseeker
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I agree with that, in a way. I believe that no doubt those disbelievers and wrongdoers, which usually go hand-in-hand together, or maybe always go together, will at the least be praying in hell for their deliverance from hell, and if people pray for them that gets them out of hell faster. God is merciful and will eventually gradually get them out of hell, but I have no idea how long this takes.
A shameless polemic based on nothing.
There is no evidence that disbelievers do wrong more than believers do, unless you mean breaking purely arbitrary rules such as the rule against eating pork, in which case many Baha'i would be wrongdoers for their disbelief in Muhammadanism.