I think so too, but while still maintaining a personal religious affiliation.
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Does perfection exist?
- Thread starter Dan From Smithville
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Your comment about the author of confusion made me think about the recent and even the past threads on the topic of the flood. As well as many discussions about biology that I have observed and even participated in on here. I would rather not go into some of my conclusions, but I do find it an interesting idea in relation to some of the positions taken by many posters on those threads.
I think that will depend on who makes the comment.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
When we speak of perfection in our human world yes. if we would speak of perfection from a God then the answer would be different. But i think sometimes it is good to leave religion out of the discussion too
King Phenomenon
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U lost me too
It will inevitably enter the discussion regardless and here more so than anywhere since it is RF. I think it is how it is handled that makes a big difference. I think you did as good a job as I hope I am doing on the subject.When we speak of perfection in our human world yes. if we would speak of perfection from a God then the answer would be different. But i think sometimes it is good to leave religion out of the discussion too
The perfection of God appears to be like any state of actual perfection. We really cannot see it or fully comprehend it, but still strive to keep it as a standard to live by. However, many can clearly live lives moving towards a similar standard without embracing any religious position.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
As a female irradiated just because human men in science said the spatial body was a womb and I will infer it Mother then quote and you evil sister daughter Mother human are evil, about says it all.
You prove in your expressions the inability to apologise as a man in science for all of the evil displaced natural human living conditions that anyone should own as a life equal.
Even after explaining I was burnt gas irradiated brain changed you still have to try to deride my intellectual status as if somehow yours is more important.
Try getting the lesson I learnt as a female yourself as a man and see what you have to say afterwards.
Than we are lost together.
King Phenomenon
Well-Known Member
Get lost
Haha
I have no idea what you are saying here. Your posts are cryptic, often indecipherable and I generally have no clue what you are trying to communicate. However, I have read what have all the appearances of derisive remarks leveled against me, men and other posters coming from you. Certainly, it could be some failing on my part, but I have my doubts, since I appear to be able to effectively communicate with practically every other poster on here.
Too late. HaHaHa.
Spirit of Light
Be who ever you want
I find this discussion you started to be very good
King Phenomenon
Well-Known Member
You have fun now, ya hear. Good luck storming the castle.
King Phenomenon
Well-Known Member
I conquered it ya hear
I don't believe we can attain perfection , morally , bodily, executing flawless actions, always hitting the mark , in this life . I don't think we see perfection around us either . As a Christian I believe the bible when it says after the fall nothing is as it was prior . Even a beautiful flower ,wilts and dies . We get hints and glimpses at its possibility. As things would have been prior to the fall . Maybe its when we look to the skies , a beautiful sunset. Were kinda like fish in the sea and all we know is the water. Spiritually I think we sense something is wrong . With death and diseases. I believe we have eternity set in our hearts, we know there's something wrong but try to live with its brokenness . Trying to cling to this life .
Well, that was the ontological proof that perfection must exists. On the other end, I could posit that one of the qualities of perfection is that it must present itself clearly to everybody, and therefore asking where it is, entails its not existence. A sort of ontological argument against its existence.
At the end of the day, since we can reach contradictory conclusions when things are ill defined, or defined by using equally ill defined terms or other deepities, we have to first precisely define what perfection means. Pending that, the whole discussion has the same value as a discussion about how we can see aksdjfkedsfsefeodjwo.
Ciao
- viole
So perhaps they should be more specific. My god dun it all is kind of arbitrary when it could mean ptah, bramen, viracocha, qʼuqʼumatz, amun etc.
I am confident that in their mind, they are being specific. Because 'fill in the blank' believes his or her god is the only god and everyone should know that.
I disagree about the value of the discussion, but the very fact that it is ill-defined could be seen to support the idea that we do not have the capacity to observe a state of perfect perfection or even determine that it can exist.