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What do you do to spiritually cultivate yourself?

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I wasn't sure where to put this thread. I wanted it to be interfaith, and comparative religion just doesn't get the volume of traffic. Is this an okay section, even though it really is more share than debate?

Even if your faith is more one of God working in your life via grace, we all cooperate with God, right? We make choices that bring growth or that stagnate us in our spiritual growth. The idea is to become people of virtue, beings that are close to God, righteous people, the enlightened -- each religion has a different way to say it, but it essentially means the same thing when the rubber meets the road. It means being more than passive. It means being active players in our own development as spiritual men and women. In fact, even atheists self-actuate and can participate in this thread.

So what kind of answers am I looking for? Well for example, I have some dear Catholic friends that are involved in a group known as Cursillo. Cursillo has taught them to nurture three main areas of their lives: piety, study, and action. (Cursillistas, forgive me if I get this less than perfect and please feel free to correct me and elaborate.) Piety means keeping the practices and traditions of the church such as prayer and eucharist. Study refers to the study of scripture and other religious topic books. Action refers to their faith in real life, such as helping the poor, the sick, the oppressed, keeping the commandments...

So that's what I'm looking for. What PRACTICAL things do you do that will help you become a better person, a person of virtue, a more enlighten being, closer to God?

Let me begin by sharing my own walk.


This has always been a very important thing to me. I made a pact with God in my twenties that I wanted to become His 100%, nothing held back, and that I would be willing to go through whatever lessons I needed to learn to do this, however hard that might be, and that I would do whatever homework I needed to do. I think God has always held me to this -- that it seems to have the weight of a vow. It seems to be that God holds me accountable not just to avoid sin, but also to do good, and to go the extra mile. In some ways, it has been easier for me, as I am a naturally introspective person, given to truly examining my soul and trying to become a better person, and asking the hard questions of life.

But in other ways it has been more difficult, as asking these questions has made me religiously unstable, that has been tearfully painful for me and my family as well.

I have to say, I do not regret the incredible religious journey my life has been. It has been a lot like The Hobbit -- I left the Shire, experienced many adventures, found the Arkenstone, and returned to the Shire along with great treasure. But like Bilbo, the danger of those adventures was very very real. I have to say I cannot recommend this sort of journeying for people in general -- most would end up in dire straights. That I have done okay I think is simply that the angels were for some reason looking out for me. Today, I am no longer journeying. I am content in Judaism, my Shire. But I do still cultivate.

Yes, spiritual growth is lifelong. So what do I do today?

1. Every Friday night I attend Shabbat services, and often to Torah services on Shabbat morning as well. Worship is important. Prayer with the community is important. Sure I can pray alone any time I want. But there is something special about being in the midst of a group and reciting or singing the psalms together. To hear the sermon, to listen to the readings from the Torah Scrolls... it feeds my soul. Does God need my worship? I don't think so. But my soul needs to worship He who is greater than myself.

2. On Saturday mornings I go to a Torah study. It is amazing, but even at age 60 I am still learning new things from Torah, even though the first time I went through it was at age seven, when my mother read it to me. There are just things I don't notice, until it seems someone points it out to me, and then I'm, WOW. Torah is, for me as a Jew, the perfect sounding board to bounce life's lessons off of. Rabbi Hillel once said to a convert, "What is hateful to you, don't do to others. That is the whole Torah. Now go and study." Study helps us parse out how to love our neighbor where the rubber meets the road.

3. On Thursdays I attend a short class in Talmud. This is my weakest area as a Jew, and even with this class, I don't think at this rate I would finish the Talmud by the end of my life LOL. It never ceases to amaze me the wisdom of the rabbis. The thing I appreciate most about Judaism, is that because it has lasted so long, it has a kind of distilled wisdom that only comes with time. This class probably makes me thing more than any of my others, which is enriching and a blessing.

4. On Shabbat afternoons, I zoom with an interfaith group that is interested in spiritual growth. We begin our two hours with five minutes of silence in which we can pray, meditate, or simply listen to the birds sing. Our topics usually draw from a variety of different religious and philosophical texts, eastern and western. What is good is that it is a highly practical class -- it doesn't focus on what we believe or who is "right." It focuses on what we can DO to become more virtuous people. I find it very humbling to be around people who are, basically, very very good people. I hope that I can become more like them. And it is also nice to be with kindred spirits who value the same sorts of things, and who see past the deceits of life like money, sex, and power.

5. I pray a lot. A Jew is to bless God 100 times a day. Baruch Hashem! (Blessed be the Name!) I try to start off every day with prayer. I thank God for making me who I am. But its not just the standard prayers. I also just go into improvised prayers thanking God for the birds singing outside my window, for the sunshine, for the fact that I have a pillow (hey if you've ever spent the night in jail and not had a pillow, you'll understand!). My whole life, I have had battles with depression, so appreciation of the little joys is so precious to me. And honestly, the very choice to give thanks for such small things I think helps stave off depression to a certain degree.

6. My participation on these forums mans something. I read more than I write. And even when I debate, I consider what the other person has written. I am one of those people who think that out of the debate process we learn. So I am not just here to share, my friends. I am also here to be shared with. I am very demanding of the quality of post I accept. And I expect others to be demanding of me. But that's because I want quality of thought, quality of learning. And if I ever cross the line from frankness into rudeness, please do bring it to my attention and I will quickly apologize -- there is no excuse for it.

7. All this would be worthless if I didn't do good works. I have been studying Isaiah lately, and Isaiah 1 has really stuck in my mind. This is the chapter where the people of Israel seem to be doing all the right things. We are keeping kosher and observing the Shabbat and doing all the holy days and new moons and sacrifices. Yet God is furious with us. Why? Because we were not taking care of the poor. In Judaism, "charity" is not something you do out of the goodness of your heart. It is a commandment that we are obligated to. Tzedakah is better translated as social justice. All our money belongs to God, and some of it is entrusted to us on behalf of the poor, and our JOB is to get it to them. Because Israel was not doing this, God was saying "I don't want your stinking sacrifices!"

It's been both easier and harder to find charitable works to do with covid. A lot of opportunities such as soup kitchens have dried up. Others, like drive by food hand outs, have come into being. But it is also good to remember that IN ADDITION to being involved in regular ongoing charities, I should always make giving way of life. How awful it would be if someone at a gas station asked me for a dollar and I said no. Sure I know some are asking for money that they will spend on alcohol. But I do remember the day it was me that needed gas. Who am I to question what they need the money for. Tzedakah comes in many forms.

8. And of course, going the "extra mile" doesn't mean I get to skip the first mile. There is always the basics of being a good decent person. Taking care of my aging mom who has dementia. Caring for my adult children when they need it without interfering in their autonomy as adults. Being a good neighbor on my street. Not gossiping about others. Not ripping people off or lifting small objects from other people's homes. Keeping my libido under control so that I'm a human rather than a hamster LOL. Basically, loving my neighbor as myself.

9. And then, there are the specific ways that Jews cultivate -- the 613 laws. We take the ordinary things of life and sanctify them. For example, every time I eat, it becomes a sacred ritual via making sure it is kosher and by blessing God for it.

These nine things are not in any particular order. The first is not the most important, and the ninth is not th least. They all work together in a wholistic manner.
 

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
At the moment, I'm still attuning to my new path - so a lot of reading and reflecting at the minute.
 

PearlSeeker

Well-Known Member
Similar to your Catholic friend.

Currently I am part of Exodus 90 program for men. There are different spiritual exercises. Three main pillars are prayer, fraternity and asceticism. For more detailed description see:
Exodus 90 | How It Works
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
Practical things?

I meditate each morning upon waking (well after I brush my teeth and shower), but I'm not sure that this qualifies as something that makes me a better person or "more enlightened." It gives me a time to just be without being engaged in the world. But it does leave me in a fully blissful state to start the day, so maybe in a way it makes me a better person? Or maybe just more tolerable? ;)

I read scripture, but I don't think this qualifies to make be a better person. I just like reading scripture. Same with listening to Vedanta lectures.

What I do to be a better person is I interact with others the way I would interact with myself or the way I would want to be interacted with, because in reality, that's what I'm doing.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
The ways a person acts to become better is subtle, and not always clear as to benefit. Here's a few things I do.

I read name tags of cashiers or service people, and make a point to call them by name. If they have time, I try to engage them is some sort of pleasant chit-chat. This busy world can be a lonely place. I thank people.

I tithe, give monthly to the local food bank, a temple building fund, and donate garlands to my local temple.

I pray, meditate, do puja, read scripture, do penance (currently it's prostration to Murugan, one for every day of my life. It will take over 3 years to complete, usually 27 a day)

I attempt to stay cheerful. People see enough grumpy.

I try to come on here, and be helpful, although sometimes I fail miserably.

The books I've written are meant to uplift or humour. People should feel inspired by books, not depressed, as are so many of today's books.

I try hard to engage with children, but sometimes domineering parents get in the way.
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
In the Baha’i Faith work done in the spirit of service to humanity and God is counted as worship. I work four days per week assisting the community through my profession.

Also I:

devote time and money towards charitable endeavour.

aspire to be a decent husband and father.

Pray and/or meditate three times per day

Share what I know with others

Take the time learn about different faiths, not just my own

Try to live a morally coherent live.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
  • I constantly remind myself of my shortcomings. Some people say that’s wrong, but you have to tear a building down to rebuild it. Unfortunately I haven’t poured the concrete yet.
  • I do a daily puja. I try not to ask too much in puja because it’s the time I’m hosting or entertaining God at home. He’s the guest of honor. You don’t invite people over and then complain how your life sucks. What I don’t do, and should do much more than I do is spend more time in mantra japa (chanting God’s names), chanting and reading hymns (stotra) and verses, and reading scriptures.
  • I try to smile, laugh and be pleasant with people when I’m out and about. Now with the mask mandate largely lifted it’s easier to let people see you smile. I do like to smile. Someone once said they love the way I “giggle”. Um, ok. :D
  • My preferred music, when I’m not rockin’ out is bhajans and other devotional songs. Some of them redefine “rockin’ out”. I’m very prone to ear worms; the bhajans and chants get stuck in my head, so I just roll with them. Maybe I’ll have one in my head when my time comes. Sri Krishna said if we think about Him at that time... whizz bang zoom!!! Instant moksha!
  • I look for YouTube and Netflix videos that are stories from our mythologies. Ordinarily I hate that word, but I use it to mean “corpus” or body of stories.
  • I think WWKD? or WWRD?... What would Krishna do? or What would Rama do? Unfortunately there are times something happens or someone does something and I say “Oh really? Well I’m not Krishna or Rama”. I’m sure He shakes His head and rolls His eyes at me.
  • In a nutshell I just try to live a dharmic life.
 

MatthewA

Active Member
Living by faith in God and the Lord Jesus Christ; Living subjectivity by the spirit of Christ/Holy Spirit/spirit of God with-in as a believer.

I don’t do anything but Christ Jesus through me is more capable than myself, by and through Christ Jesus is the strength founded in which he performs and it is never me; nothing good ever comes from me.

What does living by the spirit entail? Joy, peace with God, love (1 Corinthians 13, Romans 5, Romans 8, Galatians 5) in the sense for all people, having connection through prayer by and through Jesus Christ with-in, forbearance, gentleness, forgiveness, mercy, comfort, faithfulness.

To build strength to the spirit it requires hearing or reading the word of God; learning about the God of Israel: and His Son Jesus Christ the Lord.

That is my belief.
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
So that's what I'm looking for. What PRACTICAL things do you do that will help you become a better person, a person of virtue, a more enlighten being, closer to God?

Studying Scripture is never completed, its a life long endeavor, seeing what I thought I knew in a new light. As you stated worship is for our soul, I love our Liturgy, but God has no need of it. Charity, compassion and justice, (God's justice which restores) is the cry of the Prophet, i try to put that into practice, though I know at times I've been played by some, but that's on them. I try to really encounter those I wish to help. There are times when I question myself as to my sincerity in giving, my self check for this is to do it anonymously. I was raised with the motto, 'live and let live' when it comes to others, not being so quick to criticize.

Because Israel was not doing this, God was saying "I don't want your stinking sacrifices!"

As true today as it was for Amos. In the Catholic church we have an examination of conscience before confessing sins, however, what is often overlooked is those 'sins' of omission, thing we ought to have done and did not.
 
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Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I've worked with people that actually find this annoying.

Sure, can't please them all. In my experience, more appreciate than not. The annoying part for some I've spoken to is that it's the way the employer tracks customer complaints about specific employees. That and the mere fact they're forced to wear the name tags by some policy they never had a say in. I guess if I was a retail employer, I'd offer the choice.
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
So that's what I'm looking for. What PRACTICAL things do you do that will help you become a better person, a person of virtue, a more enlighten being, closer to God?
To accept the fact that I will never know all the answers and that I should trust my "gut", but only if I first evaluate it to make certain that it's moral ("do no harm"). Gandhi taught this, I have followed his advice for almost four decades now, and this opened doors for me that I couldn't even have begun to imagine back then.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
This is a very interesting question and an ongoing challenge for me.

My deep wish is to be ever more loving and to see that manifest through ever more present intuition.

How does that manifest? Here's one example. We have a number of homeless people in my area. One day I saw one and said a name of God directed at the person. That was my sense of communicating many things at the same time: my recognition of the person's struggle with life, my prayer that the person can recover from whatever led to the streets and my recognition that the person and I are one in the depths of our being. It also reinforces my weekly volunteer stint processing clothing for those who need it and can't afford it whether they be the working poor, the sick & disabled or the homeless.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
To accept the fact that I will never know all the answers and that I should trust my "gut", but only if I first evaluate it to make certain that it's moral ("do no harm"). Gandhi taught this, I have followed his advice for almost four decades now, and this opened doors for me that I couldn't even have begun to imagine back then.
I think doing no harm is an excellent place to start. But the world would be a sad place if it stopped there, and no one ever did good.

I had a nightmare one night that I woke up in gehenna. I couldn't figure out why I was there because of course I had done no wrong.

It was my elementary school cafeteria, and we could sit around and eat the food, and play cards and watch TV all we wanted. But we couldn't leave, we were always hellishly thirstly, and there were certian words that were almost impossible to get out of our mouths like "love" or "repent." There was an angel in charge, and I kept pestering him, to let him know a mistake had been made. When I said I had done nothing,he said, "Yes this is the hell for those who have done nothing." Of course, he meant who had done nothing good.

110 years went by, and I just tired out of complaining. The angel came and took me into a room that had a whole bunch of accountants sitting at tables with their adding machines and ledgers. They paused for a moment, and the head accountant said to me, "Your case has come up fr review, and we are just wondering what you have to say on your behalf." I had no more fight. I said, "God knows what is best. He knows exactly what my life has been, and if he things this is where I should be, then that is for the best."

The room faded away and I found myself on top of a hill in a dark and dry land, with volcanos going off in the distance. At the foot of the hill was a naked woman being tormented by these hideous demons. My first impulse was to hide behide the dry thorny bushes at the tp of the hill, so that the demons would not do the same with me. But then a voice inside my heart said, "Don't just do nothing. Do something." So I jumped out and yelled and waved my arms.

It made just enough of a distraction that the woman was able to jump up and run away. But then, oh boy, those demons were really mad at me. They were running up the hill towards me, and before I could so much as turn around, one took out a gun and shot me. I remember how much it Huuuurt, as I felll to the ground. The last thing I thought was, "How can I be dying if I'm already dead?" Then the whole world went black.

The first thing I noticed was the feel of the breeze on my cheek. then I felt someting prickly under my fingertips. I could hear birds singing. I opened my eyes. I was lying on the grass in the most beautiful place I had ever seen, bull of trees, with a little brook. It was like the garden of Eden. My heart was overflowing with Joy. I discovered I could fly. I decided that before I went off to socialize, I should first fly up to "Jupiter" to thank God for his mercy.

As I flew through space, I sensed a presence beside me. It was the Angels from the first hell. "Oh you are here too!" I said. "I'm always wherever you are." He said. And I asked him so many questions all of which he answered, which I have sadly forgotten. But then he stopped us both and said to me, "I'm sorry for all you went through, but it was necessary so that you would learn. " And he put his fingers on my forehead and said, "REMEMBER."

And then I woke up.
 
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IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
At the moment, I'm still attuning to my new path - so a lot of reading and reflecting at the minute.
I read both your posts that you recommended, and I have to say, I could not go it alone the way you have. I have to have community. You must be a very strong person. Do whatever you need to do to take care of your spiritual self, my sister.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I think doing no harm is an excellent place to start. But the world would be a sad place if it stopped there, and no one ever did good.
I agree, but since humans tend to be problem solvers, thus active much of the time, we will do good if we "do no harm". However, it's also good that we get a source of direction as well, and it's especially here that faith is very helpful.

And then I woke up.
Maybe a premonition?

I really didn't much believe in them until some years ago, but when mine started being verified over a two year period I had to go where the evidence took me. Thus, maybe you're picking up a "message", so let me recommend that you not dismiss it.
 
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