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More Than 200 Bodies Found at Indigenous School in Canada

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What's frustrating for me is the lack of action in the present. There are about 120 First Nations in Canada that don't have clean drinking water. The Catholic Church, instead of excessive apologising, could step up and build water treatment plants for every single one. But the government and the Church pass the buck back and forth with things like that.

I traveled on business in Ontario many times and the accounts of racism and brutality was mind-boggling. Especially involving Inuit people's plight particularly around Thunder Bay, where the blood is bad. Real bad.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I traveled on business in Ontario many times and the accounts of racism and brutality was mind-boggling. Especially involving Inuit people's plight particularly around Thunder Bay, where the blood is bad. Real bad.
I didn't know there were Inuit around Thunder bay.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Look up "Residential Schools in Canada" on Google -- you'll find out. It was horrible. And commonplace.
The first paragraph here, says it all.
Who wanted to kill the Indian in the child?
It reads there... On June 11, 2008, Prime Minister Stephen Harper offered a public apology on behalf of the Government of Canada and the leaders of the other federal parties in the House of Commons. Nine days prior, the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) was established to uncover the truth about the schools.
Interesting.
Government Involvement
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
If it's anything like this one is... I shudder the thought.

It seems from what I gathered so far, a mix of racism and religion, once again, involving the Catholic Church.
The Canadian government isn't innocent either, They were often co-sponsors, and sometimes took over the schools. Anglicans and methodists, perhaps others, also ran residential schools. But racism against the indigenous people here is rampant, and alive. It's tough now, as long term marginalisation and poverty makes for a tougher crowd, much the way it is in inner cities of America.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
The first paragraph here, says it all.
Who wanted to kill the Indian in the child?
It reads there... On June 11, 2008, Prime Minister Stephen Harper offered a public apology on behalf of the Government of Canada and the leaders of the other federal parties in the House of Commons. Nine days prior, the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) was established to uncover the truth about the schools.
Interesting.
Canadian Indian residential school system - Wikipedia

A lot of talk by politicians, in my view.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
I did not realize there were (edited) *state* funded Christian schools in the U.S. I would consider that to be an unconstitutional breach of separating religion and the state.
The state and religion still hold hands. Not as tightly as before, and the hands are continuing to loosen, but even holding fingers, can work.
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:D

It's only a matter of time before the fingers come loose, and the missiles start flying. Guess who will be on the receiving end. ;)
 
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SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
What are you saying... that we should all hate the thing that people claim to represent?
So when people do wrong, in the ame of God, and Jesus, we should hate God and Jesus?
(John 16:2, 3) 2 Men will expel you from the synagogue. In fact, the hour is coming when everyone who kills you will think he has offered a sacred service to God. 3 But they will do these things because they have not come to know either the Father or me.
(Romans 10:2) For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to accurate knowledge

When people do things in the name of the law, we should hate cops?
Police misconduct - Wikipedia

Should we hate physicians?
Nearly 1 in 5 Americans have experienced physician misconduct with most incidents going unreported, survey finds

Scientists? etc.
What are you saying?

What we should say is that this happened. This isn't the only place, either... The boarding schools in my area were also very harsh to the first nation population here.
 

SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
How utterly sad, but things like this did happen often in the Salish Sea area, at least. This is an extreme example of this occurrence, though...
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
It's My Birthday!
This is sad and happens more around the world than we realize.

"The remains of 215 children, some as young as 3 years old, have been found buried on the site of what was once Canada’s largest Indigenous residential school.

KAMLOOPS, British Columbia (AP) — The remains of 215 children, some as young as 3 years old, have been found buried on the site of what was once Canada's largest Indigenous residential school — one of the institutions that held children taken from families across the nation.

Chief Rosanne Casimir of the Tk’emlups te Secwépemc First Nation said in a news release that the remains were confirmed last weekend with the help of ground-penetrating radar.

More bodies may be found because there are more areas to search on the school grounds, Casimir said Friday.

More Than 200 Bodies Found at Indigenous School in Canada | World News | US News
Yes, I saw this just now online in the New York Times. I love the indigenous peoples. At least in Canada they had the National Truth and Reconciliation Commission in 2015. What about the US and their residential schools?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
What are you saying... that we should all hate the thing that people claim to represent?
So when people do wrong, in the ame of God, and Jesus, we should hate God and Jesus?
(John 16:2, 3) 2 Men will expel you from the synagogue. In fact, the hour is coming when everyone who kills you will think he has offered a sacred service to God. 3 But they will do these things because they have not come to know either the Father or me.
(Romans 10:2) For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to accurate knowledge

When people do things in the name of the law, we should hate cops?
Police misconduct - Wikipedia

Should we hate physicians?
Nearly 1 in 5 Americans have experienced physician misconduct with most incidents going unreported, survey finds

Scientists? etc.
What are you saying?
The Bible does admonish those who don't beat their kids, while stating physical abuse is love. It isn't. Beating people (especially children) and using physical violence against them is never love. But the Bible teaches it is.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Me either until I heard CBC reporting on the radio regarding the many Inuit suicides that happened on a regular basis when I was in Toronto. As it turns out, it's a very complex and horrible problem.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/first-nations-suicide-ontario-youth-1.3410909

Oh I knew they had a first nations problem, but I thought it was likely Cree, not Inuit. Inuit were traditionally much further north. There are some 200 language or distinct groups in Canada.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
The Bible does admonish those who don't beat their kids, while stating physical abuse is love. It isn't. Beating people (especially children) and using physical violence against them is never love. But the Bible teaches it is.
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On this thread? Where did that come from? :shrug:
If you want to discuss that, why not create a thread. We can talk about it there.
Perhaps I am missing it, but I don't see any relation to your post, and anything said on this thread.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
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On this thread? Where did that come from? :shrug:
If you want to discuss that, why not create a thread. We can talk about it there.
Perhaps I am missing it, but I don't see any relation to your post, and anything said on this thread.
The discussion has been overlapping into religion. Where my post comes from is the Book of Proverbs.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
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On this thread? Where did that come from? :shrug:
If you want to discuss that, why not create a thread. We can talk about it there.
Perhaps I am missing it, but I don't see any relation to your post, and anything said on this thread.
The discussion has been overlapping into religion. Where my post comes from is the Book of Proverbs.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
The discussion has been overlapping into religion.
Maybe I missed that, but regardless, it's a different topic.
Create another thread that specifically deals with your interest. That way we can stay on topic, and more may be interested in joining in that topic, as they see the title.

People may look at the title of this thread, and go... "Nay. Not interested in more sad news."
They nay see your title... Perhaps... I don't know... The Bible encourages Child abuse, and go Yah! I'm in.
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Where my post comes from is the Book of Proverbs.
I know the scriptures you have in mind. :)
Create the thread... Please. :)
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
How utterly sad, but things like this did happen often in the Salish Sea area, at least. This is an extreme example of this occurrence, though...
My brother sits on a board of a graveyard maintenance committee in rural Alberta that these days only places about 5 bodies a year. Recently they had the same type of sonar there looking for 'misplaced' graves that hadn't been mapped. Because Dad and an Aunt had told him a story about an occurrence in the 1920s they were able to find an unmarked grave, and are now going to mark it. Turns out it was a First nations Child that had died while working with his fencing crew. (in those days, Metis and First nations people would camp nearby and build fences for the pioneers, in exchange for some pittance, I presume.) The story goes that this young man took ill somehow, and passed, The community, the racists they were at the time, allowed his family to have him buried just outside the graveyard boundaries. So now that they have discovered the exact whereabouts 100 years later, the caretaking committee has decided to shift the fence over some 5 feet, soo that he will be inside. 100 years too late, but better late than never.
 
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