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Everyone Is Awesome: Lego to launch first LGBTQ+ set

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
If they ask, that's different.

I'm talking about formal education.

A Lego toy is hardly formal education.

Most kids begin asking well before their teens and formal sex education classes begin which i believe should be within plenty of time to prepare them for pubity
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The convo moved on.

I started at the beginning.

I agree, but I'm not talking about this. I'm talking about classroom stuff.

Even classroom stuff at least should include some basics as soon as kids become aware. Some parents won't do it, so the fall back should be the classroom, not some dark back alley and experimenting
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
My kids had a lesbian couple with a kid in their three year old kinder. They asked, we explained. They didn't even raise an eyebrow.
My older cousin introduced me to his then boyfriend when I was like 9. I remember he bought all us kids ice cream so we gave our blessings lol
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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Meanwhile I grew up in a country so *** puckered that they censored gay and lesbian couples out of Sailor Moon because they thought kids shouldn't even be aware of the existence of gay people. The virtue signaling (literally) was that LGBT should only exist in silence or not at all. Up until recently, schools would fire any known gay teachers of minors if it got out they were gay. And there's still pressure to only see homosexuality as other, whereas heterosexual people depicted is a okay for kids.

Yeah corporate wokeness is obnoxious. But not as obnoxious as the freakouts whenever a rainbow gets put on something.
Haha I remember that. Because it’s much better to introduce kids to incest than a gay couple, amirite lmao
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
mine was an ERECTOR set

rocket launcher kit
small nuts and bolts.....plated steel

so I built the model
ready to launch

and my sainted grandmother came wandering by

what does a little boy with a rocket launcher do?

he shoots the MOON!!!!!

I got in trouble
launcher held for review
You were no doubt a very troubled little boy.
They often end up in prison or as machinists.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
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Completely disagree with comparison of LGBTQ to BDSM, unless couples are gonna wander around the streets in gimp suits.

Just as I'd handle religious questions (despite not being religious) or sex or drug questions, so too do we handle questions about LGBTQ. Honestly, some people have strange ideas about how possible it is to 'shelter' kids, or how desirable it is to do so.

Our country just went through a very public discussion on marriage equality. Our kids know openly gay people. They've seen transgender people in the streets. You better believe they have opinions and thoughts on it.

The questions about this...like literally every other topic you can imagine...are a given. You control only how you respond.
Not to mention, we live in the age of information. Kids have Google at their fingertips 24/7. If not on their phones then at school, their friends, their libraries etc.
Unless one is planning on living in an Amish style commune, I say good luck to any parent naive enough to think they can restrict information (good or bad) from kids these days.
 
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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
See, you get it

One of my earliest memories was of sitting on an uncles knee watching a TV programme. Not a true uncle but a close friend of the family, i always called him "unka Hymie". He was Jewish and gay. in the early 1970 our house was one of the few places he could feel comfortable.

I've always got it...
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
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One of my earliest memories was of sitting on an uncles knee watching a TV programme. Not a true uncle but a close friend of the family, i always called him "unka Hymie". He was Jewish and gay. in the early 1970 our house was one of the few places he could feel comfortable.

I've always got it...
Ahh I see. Well family friends are family anyway. Being half Indian, any elder I encounter in the wild is “Aunty/Uncle.” Don’t know family from blood lol
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
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Well, that's what I'm saying. Just let kids see it, say nothing unless they ask, and go about one's day.

Upto a point I agree, and that's what I did.
Unlike my father though, I try to encourage questioning and challenge from my kids. If they wonder about something, they'll ask.

When they first asked me about the two lesbian women I mentioned earlier, it was to ask why it was wrong, since that's what some other little kids had told them.

Kids...or mine at least...see the world around them. Hajibs, lesbians, homeless people, mentally ill, drugs, whatever...they do question it, and they have done so from a very young age.

I never quite get the 'let kids be kids' angle. By their nature, kids are endlessly curious. Letting kids be kids means you'll get a million questions about everything under the sun.

Often...and I don't mean you here, I'm just speaking generally...when people say 'let kids be kids' they're talking about sheltering them from the world they live in, and quelling their natural curiosity with half answers, or even untruths.

I've seen it a lot. Death is a classic topic where this happens but adults commonly seem to want to 'protect' kids from being kids in my experience.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
We inhabit a different universe, it seems. Europe is just very different.
And I'm from San Francisco. I grew up surrounded by gays and lesbians in my life. No one had to tell me that some men like men and some women like women. I actually thought that was as "normal" as heterosexuality and didn't know that society treats the two differently until I got older.
 

JustGeorge

Not As Much Fun As I Look
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Premium Member
A Lego toy is hardly formal education.

Most kids begin asking well before their teens and formal sex education classes begin which i believe should be within plenty of time to prepare them for pubity

My great grandmother got her sex education regarding female homosexuality in her 90s... we were driving somewhere, and she said to my mom "Well, I understand how gay men do it, but I don't get Lesbians. How in the world do they have sex?" My grandmother was pretty tough and outspoken, but I thought my mom would die of embarrassment.

Upto a point I agree, and that's what I did.
Unlike my father though, I try to encourage questioning and challenge from my kids. If they wonder about something, they'll ask.

When they first asked me about the two lesbian women I mentioned earlier, it was to ask why it was wrong, since that's what some other little kids had told them.

Kids...or mine at least...see the world around them. Hajibs, lesbians, homeless people, mentally ill, drugs, whatever...they do question it, and they have done so from a very young age.

I never quite get the 'let kids be kids' angle. By their nature, kids are endlessly curious. Letting kids be kids means you'll get a million questions about everything under the sun.

Often...and I don't mean you here, I'm just speaking generally...when people say 'let kids be kids' they're talking about sheltering them from the world they live in, and quelling their natural curiosity with half answers, or even untruths.

I've seen it a lot. Death is a classic topic where this happens but adults commonly seem to want to 'protect' kids from being kids in my experience.

My oldest son was exposed to homosexuality fairly frequently in his early years, as we had a gay roommate, and she had several gay friends who came around, too. It never occurred to him that this was unusual. When he was a little older(and long past the time we lived with her), I showed him a newspaper article in which two local women got married in the 90s, after it became legal here. "Wow, why would they do that?" I braced for a conversations.... "They're so old!" he continued.

Honestly, monotheism was a more difficult conversation... He was deeply offended by the concept, and it took a lot of talk to come around to the point that while he can believe as he wishes, other people can, too.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
My great grandmother got her sex education regarding female homosexuality in her 90s...

Soon after we married (in the 90s) we went to Paris for a holiday. 8:30 in the morning we were walking along an (unknown to me) notorious street in the 9th. In every shop doorway was a scantily clad women, man, woman with chin stubble, man in miniskirt etc. I innocently asked hubby "why do they dress like that, aren't they cold" a got a fair chunk chunk of my sex education in the following conversation.
 
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