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What would happen?

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
What would happen if a Religious/ spiritual person stopped asking questions, and only observed everything around and within him/her/it self?

Is it even possible to be fully neutral and only observe?
 

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
Dear CT

A functioning brain cannot register data without categorising it. It is possible for this to occur unconsciously, but it is still taking place.

Man can also seldom register data without trying to understand it. That is the beauty of things: even in complete random chaos, patterns will be sought and found (seek and you shall find ;)).

From a mystic’s perspective, it is what is meant by having been created in “God’s image”: we share the ability (and need) to comprehend what is before us. It enables us to survive, yes, but also to expand understanding and live by Divine Will .


Humbly
Hermit
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
What would happen if a Religious/ spiritual person stopped asking questions, and only observed everything around and within him/her/it self?

As you likely already know from having practiced Buddhism, this is a goal of meditation. It takes a great deal of practice and discipline (it took many years for me) to silence the "monkey mind" and simply be the observer with no other mental process.

As to what happens? Well...that's where many fail in achieving this state. They're expecting and/or waiting for something to happen. There is nothing to happen...nothing to expect. Only to be...to simply exist.

Is it even possible to be fully neutral and only observe?

Yes. I like to call it Samadhi.
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
What would happen if a Religious/ spiritual person stopped asking questions, and only observed everything around and within him/her/it self?
Such a person will most probably re-discover the ancient shamanism, the first natural and global "religious" system.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What would happen if a Religious/ spiritual person stopped asking questions, and only observed everything around and within him/her/it self?

Is it even possible to be fully neutral and only observe?
I'd recommend it. Let the truth of the matter come out on its own terms.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Honestly, no. We learn from others and ourselves in relation to our outside environment and things we picked up (to generalize) that helped shape our internal environment. It's beneficial to ask questions because it does help you know more about yourself.

Questions such as what is god or even why did you yell at me would I would think give a sense of how one relates to god and how to improve his or her character.

I think this is more religious differences than anything else, to tell you honestly. For example, some people believe when you drop the ego and identification with form and substance (any good/bad) then there's just a blank state of awareness of self/soul/god. Some find and experience god (rather than as god) in communion with other people. So they self-reflect and pray alone (thereby observe themselves in relation to god) in a relationship with other worshipers.

When I sit and meditate in the evening with my journals, pens, and notebooks, that's fine and all but I can't do anything with it without physical discovery and interaction with my environment and people. What is the use of observation or looking in the mirror thinking the mirror reflection is your inner self when that reflection only exist because of the person looking into it, not exist on its own accord.

So, you can learn a lot of yourself from your reflection (observation). Just, in my opinion, don't mistake the reflection for yourself.

Instead of just observing yourself, be yourself.

On a side note. Couple years ago I was listening to talk about habits. The author mentioned motivation comes from action rather than action comes from motivation. Our motivation is temporal. We can only "sit" for certain amount of time. However, if we start building discipline through action via consistency, the motivation would come as a result of action not the cause of it.

Observing yourself is fine. I just find if you be yourself through action, you'd see clearer just as someone can look up at the sky and imagine themselves connected to the universe but once they use a telescope, well, you can see the beauty of it as well.

What would happen if a Religious/ spiritual person stopped asking questions, and only observed everything around and within him/her/it self?

Is it even possible to be fully neutral and only observe?

I don't see either as more spiritual than the other, but I guess it would depend on the questions. What questions would the religious or spiritual person would stop asking?
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
What would happen if a Religious/ spiritual person stopped asking questions, and only observed everything around and within him/her/it self?

Is it even possible to be fully neutral and only observe?

That's the goal of one important form of meditation. I believe it's possible because I believe some of those who say so have attained.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
What would happen if a Religious/ spiritual person stopped asking questions, and only observed everything around and within him/her/it self?

Is it even possible to be fully neutral and only observe?

I think as social beings and because of our interconnectedness, spiritual growth, development and progress depends much upon how we interact with the world. In our meditations we should ask ourselves such things as ‘how can I show loving kindness today’? Or who can I be of service to? Because we cannot become selfless without acts of service and kindness to others.

True mindfulness i believe, is about others but the west has adapted it and made it about the ego, so we see all meditation in the west at least, focused on the individual which I believe to be a selfish pursuit, in essence materialistic spirituality which leads nowhere but to the appeasement of the ego.

We must always question our motives. What are we doing meditation for? If it is to reach nirvana or salvation then it is a self centred selfish goal. If however, our meditation is aimed at serving the poor or disabled or cheering up the lonely and depressed then it leads away from the ego and focuses on others and how we can help them and serve them better.

The reason why mindfulness is so popular today I believe, is because it all revolves around the ego. It’s engineered to make ‘me feel better’ to make ‘me’ feel calm. It’s all about me, me and me and so it is popular. It would not be half as popular if it was about what we could do for others because the goal then is not to obtain anything for oneself. And the ego is only interested in being appeased.

So just observing and ‘being’ can be a self centred selfish goal unless it is connected to serving mankind, with helping the poor and needy and so on.
 
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