While wearing masks and faceshields outside may not be necessary against COVID according to the CDC, faceshields and masks do come in handy when you are peacefully protesting and the cops are going slap-happy spraying tear gas!
-
Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.
Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:- Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
- Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
- Access to private conversations with other members.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!
Is Biden Partially Responsible For People Not Getting Vacinated?
- Thread starter esmith
- Start date
Yep. Trump opted to politicize the pandemic during the campaign.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Easily prevent illness and reduce severity should I get it.
I have a complicated enough health history without potentially adding what covid can do (covid can do damage to organs throughout the body).
Reduce the chances I can spread it to others.
As I have been saying for many months now, killing you isn't the only thing covid can do. It can leave you really, really, REALLY sick and chronically ill (I've known several people who have dealt with a nasty illness from it).
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
I still laugh at all those bozos who broke all traditions of crime and committed a very high-ranking felony by storming the Capital, all without wearing a mask. Now, had they worn masks like they should have, it wouldn't have been so easy to figure out who some many of them are and track them down.While wearing masks and faceshields outside may not be necessary against COVID according to the CDC, faceshields and masks do come in handy when you are peacefully protesting and the cops are going slap-happy spraying tear gas!
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
That is simply not true, so you really have shot yourself in the foot with that absolutely ridiculous assertion.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
It's called "compassion for others in need", Shaul.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
What do you want him to do? Keep building a wall? Keep putting kids in cages? Grant people access to come legally and then throw up obstacles to prevent that?
About the only thing he hasn't done is the "****hole countries" remark and calling Mexican immigrants violent drug dealers and rapists.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
That is weird. They're thinking of people needing to get vaccinated before going out of the country. So, I would assume that should be a qualification if coming in the country. That, and we can't just go to another country as Americans and be a citizen there. I doubt countries would be welcoming to people just coming in like that. While I don't care for the wall and how immigrants (I rather just say non-american citizens. Immigrants has a negative connotation) are treated, I'd just say have the qualifications and go through the process of citizenship just as we do in other countries.
Would another country let Americans in their country if we were needed to leave because of dangerous and poor economic environment (scenario)?
I agree with your sentiment.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
To come into this country legally one probably needs a vaccination. I have a neighbor that is taking a trip to Europe. Their whole family had to get vaccinated ahead of time. Illegal immigrants are going to come no matter what. Once they are here we still have to treat them humanely.
You sure have that bass-ackwards! It's when people don't wear a mask that I am most glad to wear one -- and maybe even 2 for extra protection!
ecco
Veteran Member
It's not worth it.
ecco
Veteran Member
Can you show any verification for this story?
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Why are you getting into an argument with yourself?
None was brought up to begin with.
I haven't issues with you Ecco.
ecco
Veteran Member
RE: He downplayed the threat for at least a month.
What do you mean "became politicized"? Do you mean Trump downplayed the threat and scientists disagreed with him?
What do you mean "became politicized"? Do you mean Trump downplayed the threat and scientists disagreed with him?
Donald Trump made 33 false claims about the coronavirus crisis in the first two weeks of March - CNNPolitics
The coronavirus
'Control' of the coronavirus
"This is a very contagious -- this is a very contagious virus. It's incredible. But it's something that we have tremendous control of." -- March 15 coronavirus press conference
Facts First: Experts said the US did not have the virus even close to under control. Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said at this same briefing after Trump left the room: "The worst is, yes, ahead for us. It is how we respond to that challenge that's going to determine what the ultimate end point is going to be. We have a very, very critical point now."
Trump claimed the next day that he had not meant the virus was under control -- that he had meant "we are doing a very good job within the confines of what we're dealing with." But he had repeatedly made clear on previous occasions that he was talking about the virus when he spoke of "control." He said in late January, soon after the US announced its first confirmed case, that "we have it totally under control." He said in late February, when the number of confirmed US cases was in the low dozens, that "we have it very much under control in this country."
This was a medical emergency. Trump made it political - from day one.The coronavirus
'Control' of the coronavirus
"This is a very contagious -- this is a very contagious virus. It's incredible. But it's something that we have tremendous control of." -- March 15 coronavirus press conference
Facts First: Experts said the US did not have the virus even close to under control. Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said at this same briefing after Trump left the room: "The worst is, yes, ahead for us. It is how we respond to that challenge that's going to determine what the ultimate end point is going to be. We have a very, very critical point now."
Trump claimed the next day that he had not meant the virus was under control -- that he had meant "we are doing a very good job within the confines of what we're dealing with." But he had repeatedly made clear on previous occasions that he was talking about the virus when he spoke of "control." He said in late January, soon after the US announced its first confirmed case, that "we have it totally under control." He said in late February, when the number of confirmed US cases was in the low dozens, that "we have it very much under control in this country."
ecco
Veteran Member
I must disagree. Trump was not shocked. He knew well in advance that the mail-in ballots were going to go for Biden. The election was on Nov 3rd. The article below is from Nov 1st.
FACT CHECK: Trump Falsely Claims That Votes Shouldn't Be Counted After Election Day
It was all part of The Big Lie.November 1, 2020 8:11 PM ET
President Trump is doubling down on claims that the results of the presidential election must be known on election night, falsely asserting "that's the way it's been and that's the way it should be."
Speaking to reporters after arriving in North Carolina on Sunday evening during a campaign swing, Trump repeatedly called a recent Supreme Court decision on absentee ballots "terrible." The decision allows election officials in Pennsylvania to count absentee ballots received as late as Friday as long as they are postmarked by Nov. 3.
The president denied that he would try to declare victory prematurely.
But then he still raised doubts about counting votes beyond Election Day, even though in any election, it typically takes longer to count absentee ballots that by law count just the same as votes cast in person. More of those ballots are being cast this year because of the pandemic.
"I think it's a terrible thing when people or states are allowed to tabulate ballots for a long period of time after the election is over," Trump said. "I think it's terrible when we can't know the results of an election the night of the election in a modern-day age of computers."
President Trump is doubling down on claims that the results of the presidential election must be known on election night, falsely asserting "that's the way it's been and that's the way it should be."
Speaking to reporters after arriving in North Carolina on Sunday evening during a campaign swing, Trump repeatedly called a recent Supreme Court decision on absentee ballots "terrible." The decision allows election officials in Pennsylvania to count absentee ballots received as late as Friday as long as they are postmarked by Nov. 3.
The president denied that he would try to declare victory prematurely.
But then he still raised doubts about counting votes beyond Election Day, even though in any election, it typically takes longer to count absentee ballots that by law count just the same as votes cast in person. More of those ballots are being cast this year because of the pandemic.
"I think it's a terrible thing when people or states are allowed to tabulate ballots for a long period of time after the election is over," Trump said. "I think it's terrible when we can't know the results of an election the night of the election in a modern-day age of computers."
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Okay, I bent over backwards a bit too far for Trump and gave him the benefit of the doubt when I should have known better.
ecco
Veteran Member
They probably thought that their actions would be successful and Trump would still be president at the end of the day. Since they had saved the Trump presidency, they wanted to be certain they could be identified so that Trump could bestow the Presidential Medal of Freedom on each of them.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Sad but true.
Not true from your POV. Your opposite assertion is just as ridiculous to me. And you realize that Internet forums are rife with opinions, beliefs and assertions, right? See how that works? Well, it’s about time you and others here did.